Inevitable change
by Chris Brady / Delta Junction
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Letter to the editor

March 22, 2010

To the editor:

With more Americans out of work, we pass a health care program and push the costs on businesses and those who have wealth? Can we afford this? In my opinion, this eventually will bankrupt the American economy, and I am not alone in this opinion. It is not a happy day for hundreds of millions of Americans.

But this is not about health care, and it never was. It’s about philosophies.

We are now a more divided country than we have ever been, short of perhaps the Civil War. There is no way Republicans and Democrats will ever share power for what could be a long time. The entire Republican Party voted against the bill. This philosophy of, “Winner takes all” and “We won the election,” permeates Washington. This leaves little room for compromise. Not that compromise was ever on the table.

On top of this, Obama is stretching the powers of the executive branch to levels never seen before, even outdoing his predecessor. Along with Nancy Pelosi and Harry Reid, he is blurring the boundaries between the executive, legislative and even the judicial branches of government. This is a dangerous precedence and can be harmful to America.

And what about the costs? What happens when the tap that pays for government provided benefits runs out? As the war on private sector profits continues, the tap will run out eventually, especially if the left wing continues in its victories against the private sector. Then what will we do? The failure of past governments, which shared socialist philosophies, is many.

One thing is for certain: Change is coming, and with change, there is friction. Will the friction cause a spark that will start a fire that burns this great nation?

It’s too late to answer this now.

With the passage of the health care bill, we just jumped into the rabbit hole.

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oldowl
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March 27, 2010
This health care bill was a big compromise, far too much of one in my opinion. Obama and his supporters wanted more than they got. Republicans have nothing to offer beyond arguing and their complaints that they didn't know what was in the bill only showed they were too lazy to read it and come up with anything else. The bill wasn't perfect but it's what we have now and it will save money in the long run. The Republican alternative of doing nothing is the major reason for costs going up.
Invictus
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March 27, 2010
twain: "Im not claiming the dems are lily white as I have issues with them too, but in this health care debate the repbs have shown who they carry water for, the rich and exploiters of the people. Their swan song is tax cuts for the wealthy and wars all over the world. So good try doug, but trying to rewrite history for you repbs just wont fly when we have just seen them in all their uglyness."

You must live in a world void of facts.

It was Obama who cut the deals with the insurance companies and pharmacuetical companies;

Nancy Pelosi, hereself, said that many of the elements in Obamacare are ideas present by republicans;

Wars all over the world? I can think of only one that we're involved in: Afghanistan -- you know, the place where Obama is waging the war. BTW, the dems voted almost unainimously for the invasion of Afghanistan and in the majority of the invasion of Iraq, including this vice president. Senator Obama voted to fund every dollar of the war in Iraq.

BTW, everyone who paid taxes got a tax cut. You probably did not pay taxes so you didn't get a tax cut. If only the rich got tax cuts, why is Obama going to keep the Bush tax cuts in place except for those in the top two brackets? Try to figure that one out for yourself, okay?

I would love to hear your issues with the donkeys. I don't believe you have ever elucidated these issues.

Grneyecossack
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March 27, 2010
« mwmcintyre wrote on Friday, Mar 26 at 11:08 AM »

The New Deal failed,

Yes - the new deal practically destroyed this nation. It created a gimme gimme effect that we have yet to get away from.

The time has come to remove government from all aspects of business. If a business grows - good. If it fails thats too bad. If a person makes the business strong - they shoul dbe paid what they can for it.

CurtJ what on earth is a neocon anyway? I looked it up and found ----nothing.
Grneyecossack
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March 27, 2010
Twain

Your not very bright are you?
twain
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March 27, 2010
Oh come on doug....the republicans just became lazy and complacent. Nothing like putting lipstick on the pig. The truth is they never had no interest in health care at all until the dems brought it forward as a main issue, then their whole push was to protect the greedy insurance companies. The party of no kicked into high gear to save the thieving bankers and keep the strangle hold of the insurers around our throats. Im not claiming the dems are lily white as I have issues with them too, but in this health care debate the repbs have shown who they carry water for, the rich and exploiters of the people. Their swan song is tax cuts for the wealthy and wars all over the world. So good try doug, but trying to rewrite history for you repbs just wont fly when we have just seen them in all their uglyness.
Doug_in_Salcha
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March 27, 2010
mstrblaster,

“I just don't understand why the repubicans didn't do something about health care when they were in control of both the legislative and executive branches…”

I doubt I would agree with you on much else but on this I do agree with you. Suspect the answer lies in Republicans becoming lazy and complacent when they had power. Some people (not all of them Republicans are like that); please note who it is who is refusing to listen to the other side now.

AKGOLD
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March 26, 2010
"If ye love wealth greater than liberty, the tranquility of servitude greater than the animating contest for freedom, go home from us in peace. We seek not your counsel, nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you; and may posterity forget that ye were our countrymen." Samuel Adams

“The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of Patriots and tyrants!” Thomas Jefferson
mstrblaster
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March 26, 2010
I just don't understand why the repubicans didn't do something about health care when they were in control of both the legislative and executive branches. The american people knew it couldn't go on the way it was. Why didn't the republicans do something about it when they had the chance? I know the current bill is flawed. But the republicans can't say anything because they didn't do anything when they could have at one time. Talk about squandering opportunities. No wonder I don't ever want to vote for them. Too stupid.
Invictus
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March 26, 2010
"What will you do when the rich leave and there is no more wealth?"

Interesting question, outlaw. Recently the California State Comptroller put out a report showin that more than 50% of all of California's state taxes are collected from only 50,000 people. Californian is more than flat broke, they will be sucking the rest of the country dry. Can you imagine what would happen when half of those 50,000 move to Nevada --- like they've been doing for the last 15 years? Same story in Michigan. We're seeing your posit play out before our eyes. The answer is obvious to anyone, but a durn commie liberal.
Buick-Mackane
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March 26, 2010
Oh yeah, WWII didn't end the Depression. Blocking aspects of the New Deal and opening up free-trade did. It was the trade,industry and economic intercourse of the private sector, not the government. Government only spends when it can tax and borrow against productivity. You have chronology mixed up.
Buick-Mackane
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March 26, 2010
"Tyranny will come to your door in a uniform." - Jack McLamb, Police and Military Against the New World Order
Buick-Mackane
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March 26, 2010
The IRS is the collection agency to the privately-owned bankers' Federal Reserve. Our income taxes don't provide revenue for the U.S. government, but it is used to pay interest on the debt of borrowing from the Federal Reserve, which by it's nature is perpetual and growing. We pay with our labor,for money being made out of thin air at no cost to the lender. It is slavery. It is also illegal. Now if you want to argue that the federal income tax is not unconstitutional using the 16th amendment , which 'allows' for a direct unapportioned tax , then you will have a fight on your hands about the 16th amendment itself being unconstitutional - that the required number of states needed to ratify it was never met. No law or statute exists that you have to pay this tax for this purpose. So if you really want to get back at the really 'rich bad guys' , go after the international bankers running the federal reserve by not paying your taxes.

This ought to stir up the nest a bit!

twain
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March 26, 2010
bump.... I share your dread of a possible 12 year depression again. You are so right that the new deal did not end the depression, ww2 did that. And to expect that obama will end it any faster than FDR is not realistic. The hole has been dug to deep by the corporation thieves. I also have concerns whether we can survive another one as the young nowadays are in debt to their eyeballs and have really never had to live on their wages. With this said we cant let the people starve if it gets really bad no matter the costs. We also need to see the corporate thieves dont stand by with their ill gotten gains while the country goes under.
bump
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March 26, 2010
batman

You need to get better sources. Rolling Stone is not a reputable source for unbiased political thought. I read some of the article, out of curiosity, and it was exactly what I expected. A lot of character assassinations of the bad guy Republicans. Frikkin' Curt can write that. Rolling Stone was better when they stuck to music and the occasional Hunter Thompson article. Now, they take themselves seriously. But, if talking about the fat fingers of the committee chairman looking as though they had been used to bludgeon a prostitute is your idea of good political insight, then at least we have an idea of your depth.

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twain and mcintyre

God help us if we have to survive 12 years of Democratic New Deal economics "success" again. It damn near destroyed the country in the 30s, and fostered untold suffering. It did not end the Depression then, and it's not working now.

I'm not sure the republic is strong enough to survive it again.
mwmcintyre
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March 26, 2010
So, redpoll, you're saying it'e right the the income gap has widened so much with the CEO's of companies making thousands times more the frontline workers and getting things like 10 million dollar severance packages after getting fired? It's one thing to have some income disparity, it's another to have a few people who have the resources of royalty and the rest to be barely living from paycheck to paycheck. What Obama is talking about is not making sure everyone makes the same but making sure that there is an equitable distribution of the wealth(the guys at the top will still make plenty more than the guys at the bottom). Mainly protecting the little guy from getting screwed over simply so a few people can swim through mountains of cash.

"Over most of that period, government policy and market forces have been moving in the same direction, both increasing inequality. The pretax incomes of the wealthy have soared since the late 1970s, while their tax rates have fallen more than rates for the middle class and poor."

As far as I can make it, you think this is a good thing. This is actually an indication of a problem, the slow disappearance of the middle class. I'm still trying to figure out what liberty it is you think is being attacked. You make these grand quotes(thunderous applause) but you have yet to link it to anything grounded in reality.

Adversary
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March 26, 2010
Doug -

Good post. Idleness brings want. This country, because of people like Twain, have sold the idea that we are all equal.

Let me tell you something. We are ALL created equal, but what we do with ourselves after we are born is solely up to us. I am not equal to the food stamp collecing welfare mother who chooses to spend her money on cigarettes and doritos. Sure, when we were in diapers we were equal but now we are worlds apart. I am far, far above her and for someone like Twain to state that I need to help her is sickening.

If it wasn't for people like us, "the wealthy," we wouldn't even be having this conversation.

How about every last one of you who is advocating for redistribution of wealth go out and thank someone who makes more money than you do, for it is us who provide for you and a little gratitude would be appreciated.
Adversary
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March 26, 2010
mwmcintyre -

Haven't you ever heard that "life isn't fair." It isn't a level playing field and as long as we try to make it that way the people who have played by the rules and done well will complain.

I don't want to pay for someone to have unlimited text messaging. Please tell me how text messaging is a necessity.

And I've noticed that Twain cannot answer a straight forward question.
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