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Posted on October 10 at 9:29 a.m. (Suggest removal)
Teachers do a lot more than teach because they want to, not because they have to. That is part of the passion. They should not get a collective raise for it.
Posted on October 10 at 9:14 a.m. (Suggest removal)
Inchworm - "economic issues of the past few weeks"
You think all of these issues arosein the last few weeks? I think your public education did you a disservice if that is truly what you believe.
If the teachers want to be treated fairly they would drop their union and ask for raises based on merit, not collective bargaining.
Posted on October 10 at 9:08 a.m. (Suggest removal)
Lief Fenno - I don't disagree that we need good teachers. Please explain to me why these teachers should get a raise when our literacy rate continues to drop, why we have slipped from number 1 in industrialized nations to number 9 in just twenty years, and our dropout rate climbs.
Explain why they should get a raise for doing a bad job, or admit that their job isn't as important as they state.
Posted on October 10 at 8:47 a.m. (Suggest removal)
susie77,
You miss the point. Your daughter picked a profession she will enjoy. "All I want to do is work with kids." She is stating that working with children and doing what she loves is her return on investment in education, not the money.
I would LOVE to be a world traveler and take photos of strange places, but I made my choice to have money instead. Your daughter's passion is teaching and being around children. She made her choice as I made mine.
Posted on October 10 at 8:38 a.m. (Suggest removal)
Lief Fenno,
I do get raises. They are based on performance. I do a good job, hoping to get a raise.
"shows a fundamental lack of understanding of exactly what it takes to produce a healthy, contributing member of society. "
Again, go to a high school and look at what is being turned out. You really think your average high school student is a healthy, contributing member to society?
University professors and those that teach trades make skilled workers. The teachers are failing. I know what they are supposed to do; I do not see them doing it.
Either the teachers are doing a poor job, or their job is not as important as they state it is. Which is it?
Posted on October 10 at 8:29 a.m. (Suggest removal)
Let me put this out there OldSkoolNook42 ...our education system scuks, we have stupid kids who can't even form a paragraph. Look at your post. Just look at how you write. Are you proud of that? How old are you?
I am off topic. Let me get back on topic. My wife recently paid for something that was $4.95. She gave the teller, a young girl probably about 19 years old, a $5 bill. The register was down, and the girl had a hard time making change and had to use a calculator.
This is the product these teachers are producing. They want a raise for that?
Posted on October 10 at 7:13 a.m. (Suggest removal)
Is it a surprise that all of you work so many hours? When going to school to become a teacher were you given the impression that you would be working 40 hours per week and then suddenly it rose to 60 when you got the job?
I didn't think so. You knew what you were getting into. Same as a Social Worker or an English major. You knew the pay and requirements when you took the job.
You make above median income and have steady jobs. Quit complaining. I certainly do not hope my child is around this type of behavior at school; I don't want her growing up to be an entitled, ungrateful little brat like these teachers.
Suck it up. Do your job. If you don't like it, quit. Or maybe work towards reforming the schools and cutting out all of the extra junk that kids "learn" while there. Our education system is a joke because the teachers, parents and administration make it inefficient, not because you aren't paid enough.
Fuel or my child's education? Ooohh, my heartstrings. Let me help you by saying you should quit now. You clearly cannot make intelligent choices. Why were you sitting at homecoming, watching yours kids kick a ball, wasting time, when you could've been grading papers or doing something on your own time? It sounds to me like teachers make an awful lot of decisions to do things school related that they enjoy, but want to get paid for it. I don't ask my employer for reimbursement when I go home and read up on latest software trends in medicine...
Most teachers make above median income in Fairbanks. Let me take a moment to educate you: If you make above the median income, then you make more than 50% of the people in this town. I don't care how many hours you work, or what it makes your hourly wage, you still make more than half of the people you see on a daily basis.
Guaranteed raises? I work in the private sector and I don't get a guaranteed raise. Do you see me whining about it? Why should you get one? Please give me a compelling reason to write a letter to the board, other than you won't be a teacher anymore (hardly a threat, judging from the reasoning skills in this letter.) Also, please explain to me why anyone should have a guaranteed raise that has absolutely nothing to do with their job performance.
In closing, what you do is a job. It is no more important than what the next person does; we are all cogs in the same machine. You will be replaced. Don't let the door hit you on the way out.
Posted on September 23 at 6:53 a.m.
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Posted on September 13 at 8:16 a.m. (Suggest removal)
scaredforlife -
I have no problems. I do not have a high post count. And I do not get on here to give kudos to people; I get on here to post logical thoughts, sentiments, and debate. If you want to feel good, don't read my comments.
I don't really care about your circumstances, although yours seem unique at it is unfortunate. I'm glad you got the hell out before it got worse.What I care about is that you actually do something with that money, other than spend it on a TV or Hawaii. If you do, I really hope social Darwinism wins.
I have heard of that saying, and it is stupid. If we all said only nice things to each other, nothing would ever get debated. Nothing would ever change.
Enjoy your money, and please make sure you are doing something for your children to better their future.
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Posted on October 10 at 10:20 a.m. (Suggest removal)
RLK - If teachers are responsible for education, and America is being dumbed down, then who are we to blame for this if not those entrusted to educate our children?
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