'SNL' sends up veep debate with Fey, Queen Latifah
Published Sunday, October 5, 2008
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Stumble It!NEW YORK -- It's starting to feel like Tina Fey is running for vice president.
Fey again returned to "Saturday Night Live" to play Republican vice presidential candidate Sarah Palin as the sketch comedy show continued to pull out all the stops in its election year season. Queen Latifah dropped by to portray Thursday's debate moderator, PBS's Gwen Ifill, and cast member Jason Sudeikis stepped into the role of Democratic vice presidential candidate Joe Biden.
The "SNL" take on the week's political events has become a dependable part of the news cycle this fall, offering near-immediate parodies of the presidential candidates, Democrat Barack Obama and Republican John McCain, and their running mates. The show — particularly the opening sketches — have resonated with higher ratings for the NBC program and increased traffic on its Web site where early-to-bed viewers catch the talked-about sketches in the days after.
Saturday night's opening sketch of the VP debate appeared likely to garner similar buzz thanks to Fey's popular Palin impression. Winking and giving answers not always directly related to Queen Latifah's questions, Fey's Palin said that if she was elected, her decisions would be guided by considering "what would a maverick do?"
At the end of the segment, she asked with flute in hand, "Are we not doing the talent portion?"
Palin was runner-up in the 1984 Miss Alaska contest.
Sudeikis, with hair slicked back and a tight-fitting suit, portrayed Biden as conflicted in his feelings for McCain, whom he called "a raging maniac and a dear, dear friend."
Saturday's "SNL" concluded the opening run of four straight shows — including three with guest appearances from Fey, a former cast member and head writer for "SNL" whose day job is starring in, producing and writing for NBC's "30 Rock." The network has said her appearances on "SNL" are being decided on a week-to-week basis.
The show has shown its willingness this fall to cast from beyond its current lineup. Last week, former cast member Chris Parnell returned to play Jim Lehrer, the moderator of the first presidential debate.
"SNL" — which was hosted Saturday by Anne Hathaway with the Killers performing — will get its first weekend off this week. But it will still capitalize on election campaign fodder with the first of three prime-time "Weekend Update" specials beginning Thursday.
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Let me be serious. Tina Fey should receive an Emmy for her portrayl of Gov. Palin. I mean, how spot on. It really shows how incompetent Palin is and how silly she looks. Even Tina Feys exagerations are starting to ring true.
For thoughs in support of Palin who watched the debate take a look at the SNL video. It really shows how your candidate is unresponsive to the questions asked to her. It shows that she can only answer questions by using catch phrases. Maverick, Obama raisning taxes, Joe 6-pack; how stupid. And lastly, it shows that she is definatley not ready to take on such a big responsibility. To believe anything else shows that you are out of touch with how people in important positions are supposed to act and conduct themselves. Seriously, any intelligent woman could take her place. Heck, I'd pick Katie Couric over her, she seems to know a lot more.
I just hope that when the election is over and Obama is declared the winner that Tina Fey will continue her Emmy nominating performance of Palin. She's just getting started and it would be a shame to see her impersonation of Palin go away. It's just too funny and very spot on.
I find it curious that although every politician of note has had a parody in SNL, only a parody of Sarah Palin receives repeated and daily coverage in the national news. Why is Sarah Palin such a threat to the liberal left that they are doing their best to "Dan Quayle" her? She's got issues, but so have all the other candidates that have ever run for the presidency. She has areas that need to improve. So do the other candidates. Every attack on her strengthens my resolve (And just about everybody else I've talked politics with) to vote for Palin. When I vote for McCain/Palin, I'm also letting the left wing liberal elitists know how disgusted I am with their agenda.
Every attack from space cadet bloggers, SNL, MSNBC, ADN, Ed Shultz, etc. is just another endorsement that Sarah Palin is the right choice for this election.
Wow EOD-
Could it be that Palin is "Dan Quayleing" herself? You said it yourself, a lot of politicians are being parodied. Fey's Palin is particularly funny because she doesn't have to reach too far for the ridiculous. Palin does all the work for her.
We all get cast our votes based on whatever moves us. But, may I say that voting for Palin because you feel sorry for her is “beyond irresponsible”?
She's the one who is providing the material used by SNL. Palin's the one who during interviews and the debate didn't answer the questions posed to her. You can actually see when she's flusterd and caught off guard. It's obvious that she comes up with a bunch of bull when she doesn't know what to say. It's just too funny! I'm sure if there was as much material to use on the other candidates SNL would use it. Watch it again and tell me it isn't spot on. I'm sure you will.
Not mention, the people I talk all think that the coverage she's getting is allowing them to see through all the cliche words and phrases to get to the truth. And the truth is, she's not even close to being ready for VP. And to think if McCain, if elected, was not able to continue to reside as President for whatever reason and Palin was to take over. Well, let's just hope that never happens because if it did we'd all be in trouble.
EOD_Dave, nobody wants to "Dan Quayle" Sarah Palin -- that would be too great a compliment for her. If you look over all the old footage of Dan Quayle, he clearly seems a lot more intelligent than Sarah Palin. In fact, if Palin is elected, Dan Quayle is going to be forgotten... there will be a new poster-child for stupidity in politics.
Issues? Areas that need to be improved? I would say that "doesn't know anything" is a pretty BIG issue. "Everything" is a pretty big area to need improvement in. And her stupidity isn't even her worst problem. Her character is completely disgusting. She lies in public several times a day, and she knows it. And now she's telling subtly racist lies to smear the character of a really good man, Barack Obama, who has spent his life doing good for people in public service. She is a lying, vindictive, prissy snot who will say or do anything, and backstab anybody, to get power she doesn't deserve.
At least John McCain got one thing right... she DOES seem to be his soulmate. He's almost as delinquent as she is:
http://www.rollingstone.com/news/story/2...
Why don't you care enough about your country to put somebody competent in charge? Do you think she's going to be able to flirt her way through negotiations with Putin? Is she going to wink the economy back into a stable position? When a major terrorist attack happens on her incompetent watch, will she bring the victims back to life by saying, "doggone it?"
Would you let Sarah Palin perform heart surgery on you? Would you let her repair your computer? Would you let her defend you in court? Would you let her manage your investments? No, because those things require EXPERTS. Yet when it comes to the HARDEST JOB IN THE WORLD, with the fate of the United States of America at stake, Sarah Palin is a-OK because she's got a pretty face and she likes moose?
Seriously, EOD Dave, has there ever been a candidate who is so deserving of parody?
What makes Tina Fey's portrayals of her so worthy of comment is how little of Sarah Palin's dialogue she has to fabricate. Did you watch the debate? Did you see those Couric interviews? They parody themselves. Mostly what SNL did in their spoof on those interviews was to recreate them in the context in which they belonged -- a comedy show.
I find it comedic that expectations of Palin for the VP debate were so low (even from Republicans) that her not bursting into tears or running away during the debate was considered some kind of victory. We're supposed to be proud of her because she didn't do a totally terrible job during the debate? Palin hid behind "folksy charm" whenever she had trouble answering a real question. And we're supposed to be charmed by her lack of terminal g's, her use of phrases like "Doggone it" and "We both love Israel", and her inability to pronounce the word "nuclear? And we're supposed to completely overlook how many questions she had no support for or never addressed at all? Please.
I am not an elitist because I am not fooled by that.
What disturbs me about Palin's popularity is that any popularity earned by such means is proof that our political climate has been so dumbed down that anyone appearing educated on even a basic level or pointing out a lack of education on the part of the opposition is thought of now as being "elitist" or "bullying."
Since when do we want someone "just like the rest of us" in charge of the free world? When did assuming a vice-presidential office cease to be a goal that did not require EXTRAORDINARY education and experience? Is that the "agenda" of the "liberal elitests" that you're talking about? Is the "agenda" you're talking about just the expectation that someone who wants that much power should know what they're talking about when commenting on foreign policy?
If that's the case, I do have that agenda -- I absolutely believe that education should be something we value, respect, and unequivocally demand for the second-highest office in the land. I believe also that journalists who put a candidate's knowledge on issues to a public test are doing their jobs. This is not "gotcha journalism" -- it's democracy.
Just because there are two main sides during a presidential election does not mean that those two sides are equal or that the press is somehow obligated to cover them as though they are equal. They should do their jobs to expose the idiocy of BOTH major campaigns. If Palin exposes more holes in her knowledge or experience, I hope to see more press about them.
In a political climate where there's so much to be disgruntled and discouraged about, I'm grateful that SNL gives me a place to laugh.
What it shows is only one candidate has generated any public interest in this race. Lord Obama's fame was been driven by the media, not the public. Liberals are group thinking themselves into the same corner with Palin that they have with global warming and welfare. Conditioned to use the liberal context while debating important national issues, the American people have lost the neutrality required to scientifically identify and solve problems. Call it political correctness or media bias or whatever, if one can't argue a valid point with out being ridiculed like Palin was for not endorsing Gore's version of the climate debate then way debate at all? You people crying fool, fool, fool should try looking at issues from the other sides perspective. Why would someone want to pay less taxes, why would someone disagree with aborting fetuses, gun-control, or putting lawyers in control of this country? Go on, say it, cause she's stupid.
EOD Dave...the left is extremely nervous of Palin's likability and appeal to the masses. Biden doesn't have it and the only way they can keep her suppressed is to slam her in parodies each week. It's the greatest form of flattery. Sarah's doing just fine...and that's why they attack.
Wow,
I said it as a joke a few weeks ago, but it is evidently spot on. The liberals are beginning to confuse Fey's performance with the real Sarah Palin. The more Fey makes her look ridiculous, the more the liberals think she is ridiculous.
I guess that's what happens when you've been spoon fed and brain washed by the media to eat, drink and think whatever they want.
I have found humour in the parody, but no more. Her comment of forcing two teens to get married went beyond simple satire. It was mean spirited and inappropriate.
EOD..Dana Carvey did a great GW Bush and did it often...you are too young to remember but Frank Goshin, Rich Little and many others did all the famous and infamous people and did them well and people loved it....of course YOU weren't here to complain...people were less sensitive back then TOO...you are just going to tough this one out...WANNABE.
Just like Palin. You defenders are just like her. You skirt around the issues and never answer them head on. Even in this forum. Many of us have givin you clear accounts and reasons why we feel the way we feel about Palin. But instead of responding to our concerns you go back into saying a bunch of bull.
A question to all of you Palin supporters escpecially oldakcuss and roadtrip. Are you telling me that you don't see everything we've talked about? You don't see that she never answers questions directly? You don't have a problem with her using winks and smiles to sway you? You don't see that she babbles and looks flusterd when confronted with real questions? If you don't then you're blind. Are you going to respond to our questions and concerns or continue to do what Palin has done? I guess it's too bad we can't see you wink and smile all though it wouldn't work. We want answers.
Sounds like you guys are the one's who are nervous. You're running out of ways to defend your candidate while everyday she gives us more reason to talk bad about her. I'm looking forward to see what else she has for us.
EOD - It's a comedy show. They keep doing Palin because she's so freakin' hilarious. They don't even have to WRITE the stuff, she does it for them. Palin is seriously out of her league and too arrogant to admit it. Does America deserve better? Doggone it, you betcha'...wink,wink.
Roadtrip, I'm not sure what you're trying to say here.
Obama's campaign has been funded primarily by individuals rather than corporations. Is that "media-driven" fame?
I do look at issues from the other side's perspective. That's why I respect Palin's heartfelt and reasoned stance on abortion. While I don't agree with her on that point, I do know that it's at least a considered one. Therefore, I'm flummoxed that she wouldn't come out and declare her stance when Couric asked her about it directly. The closest she got was saying she'd "counsel" a pregnant teen raped by her father to "choose life." Since when is a VP just a counselor? Her conservativism on this issue is a huge reason McCain picked her as a running mate. There are lots of people who agree with her stance, and as someone who would potentially appoint Supreme Court justices primarily with is issue in mind, we have a right to know her opinion on this. Why wouldn't she voice her real opinion? I personally think that's strange.
I also listen to scientists rather than oil-company-funded "research" when looking for answers on what is causing our climate change. That's why I think it's naive of Palin to say that it doesn't matter what the cause is. When looking for strategies to reverse climate change, how can the root cause not matter? I find her thinking on that issue patently unscientific.
If someone can give me a susbstantiated, supported opposing view, I listen. I didn't hear much substantiation in the debate or in the Couric interviews or from you. It's hard to take any unsubstantiated point seriously.
Roadtrip, please cite examples of what you're talking about. Just calling people "liberal" doesn't make any point at all except that you've accepted the FoxNews "group think" that the word "liberal" is some sort of insult.
So everybody makes fun of Palin for winking at her father in the audience. How dare she? I didn't watch enough of the skit to see if they ever make fun of Biden for that crying performance he turned in during the debates? That's the performance that should be up an academy award.
I'm getting to be pretty certain that this country is going to elect Ocommie to the presidency, and if you think we're in trouble now...?
Time Stamped and Saved!
Oldakcuss,
The only thing I'm nervous about is that the American people will let winking and being cute count more than facts. It happened with GW, and it's been scary indeed.
But Palin's falling in the polls now. Most polls gave the debate win firmly to Biden, and Obama's lead is widening nationally. I maintain hope that Americans are smart enough to know an empty package when they see one, no matter how folksy it is.
Lord Obama has the most liberal voting record in congress, which is good news for liberals. This allows them to support him during the campaign even though he has moved to the center. His record shows that his most significant achievement is promoting himself. Disagree with my opinion, then tell me what he has done, and don't tell me about Harvard law school or some snazzy catch phrase. Theodore Kaczynski when to Harvard and he wanted "change" to.
"I also listen to scientists rather than oil-company-funded "research" when looking for answers on what is causing our climate change."
Like say, the oil scientist hired by environmentalists to be watchdog over the oil platforms off the california coast, ... the one who gave an interview who said our beaches and coastline are actually in better environmental shape than they were 30 years ago because drilling actually relieves the pressure of underwater oil domes, thereby reducing occurences of natural oil slicks on beaches and coastlines? What about that type of research?
"Most polls gave the debate win firmly to Biden."
Curious, Fox News gave Palin an overwhelming win, almost 80%. Before the liberals attack, Fox News has the #1, #2, #3 and #4 rated shows on cable. They even routinely beat ABC and CBS news. Is this not a major poll?
this business about her winking at her father is such a crock. she is running for the second highest ranking position in the country for God's sake! she was looking straight at the camera and into the livingrooms of millions of Americans around the country. is she that stupid, that naive, that unprofessional? let's now picture Obama winking at his wife since it was there wedding anniversary the other day. C'mon, picture it. tell me he wouldn't be laughed out of this election before he was able to get off the stage.
If you want to talk about winking, ... what was up with Biden mouthing words and winking himself during the debate, ... all directed at Gwen Ifell. Explain that.
"White mans greed runs a world in need" Lord Obama.
Liberals have conditioned themselves to discount anything that interferes with their belief system. Emotionally based decisions are reinforced by the selective acquisition of information. You want an example, how about "you've accepted the FoxNews "group think"". I read all publications, listen to all broadcast journalism, and use the internet to find things I am looking for as my time allows. I also know the difference between bias and neutral. I know how to change my opinion or acknowledge contradicting information.
Did you hear that? I believe it was the last gasp of McCain's campaign.
Wait, wait.......okay, I hear it. lol.
Roadtrip, I'm glad to hear that you are widely read.
Great! You should have no problem then producing support for your opinions. Please do so. I've given lots of "contradicting" information, and you've yet to acknowledge it.
Ponderous, I said most, not all. Of course Fox News is going to get a poll that gives the win overwhelmingly to Palin. I'd be shocked if they didn't, since I assume they use their loyal viewers for their poll. I'd be surprised if MSNBC had a poll that put Palin ahead for exactly the same reason. Neither of these networks is reliable as an unbiased news source. I discount both of their polls as a result. So should you.
Roadtrip, I don't discount things because they "interfere with [my] belief system." I just don't give credence to opinions that lack support or run contrary to facts.
Also Ponderous, while not 100% of scientists agree, I do tend to go with the overwhelming majority -- which say, even without the promise of any personal monetary gain (this is what skews the oil-funded studies) that global climate change is real and man-made. And the study you cited isn't even about climate change -- it's about coastline. I know the coastline isn't in horrible shape. I used to live in Barrow, and I've been to Prudhoe Bay. That wasn't my point. Please, if you can, give me scientific proof that climate change is NOT man-made. That WAS my point. I'd like to see that proof if you have it. I would love to be wrong about this.
Why is the media trying to "Dan Quayle" her? Because she is dumber than a box of rocks.
doesn't Obama look a little like Simon Bar Sinister, or is it just me?
"Just like Palin. You defenders are just like her. You skirt around the issues and never answer them head on. Even in this forum."
Who's skirting around the issues? I have yet to see an Obama supporter explain his association with the likes of Ayers, Wright and Davis.
That's so strange, roadtrip... When Kerry was running for president the NRO said that he was the most liberal sentator. Now that Obama is running they say HE is the most liberal. What a coincidence!
More liberal than Dennis Kucinich, roadtrip? Really??
What scares me is all of the outsiders who now canvas our comment sections. All pushing for Obama and never setting a foot in Alaska and they act like they are one of us. Slam Sarah all you want. On election day all of the Obama sheep will vote for McCain because they don't trust Obama and McCain is the safe vote for our country.
An inexperienced Democratic President and lame duck Democratic congress are a recipe for disaster in this country.
Media bias?
Why doesn't the media call Joe Biden on all the times he has talked about his wife being killed by a drunk driver? The truck driver was not drunk and investigators at the scene thought Mrs. Biden did not see the truck and pulled out in front of it.
Biden has used his wife and daughters deaths for his political gain. To profit from your families destruction reveals a lot of character on Joe's part, as does hurting the family of an innocent man every time he spouts his lie.
Last time I checked Joe Biden didn't answer all of the questions asked of him either. Guess Sarah is the only one called out on that. How much money did Obama receive from Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac? We will never know as the liberal media will conveniently give him a free pass on that!!!!!
Man, do you right-wing folk not have a sense of humor? Or have you only recently discovered SNL and tuned in to watch the caricatures of Palin -- which are spot on and hilarious, especially when they use her words verbatim?
Can you truthfully say you haven't enjoyed the years of constant ridicule of Hillary Clinton? (Let's see, numerous mentions of her pantsuits, insinuation that she's a lesbian, portrayal of her as an embittered hag or unwanted wife, just to name a few of the seeds of the Hillary "jokes.") It's only liberal bias and mean-spirited if it's about your gal Sarah, huh?
Oh. I forgot your newfound empathy for Hillary and your crocodile tears about her not winning the primary. Of course you didn't mind -- and certainly never protested as sexist -- the years of abuse she took, not just from comics (whose job it is), but from your favored pundits and radio talk show hosts.
BigDan, what evidence do you have that there's even one non-Alaskan on here? How do I know that YOU'RE an Alaskan?
Rest assured, I'm an Alaskan. I live right here in Fairbanks, and I will vote for Obama on election day. I won't be alone.
Irusuallyright, the reason I don't choose to start conversations about Obama by mentioning his "association with the likes of Ayers, Wright, and Davis" is because I don't think his having once met or known them or serving on a committee with them means that he is exactly the same as they are or that he somehow condones their views or actions. Are you exactly like everyone you have ever met, known, or worked next to? Besides that, the media touting those connections are incredibly biased and untrustworthy, and I don't find ads like the one connecting Obama to Ayers (funded by ONE person with the help of an organization that includes board members with ties to the McCain campaign) worth bringing up because they're so patently bogus. Just because something gets some biased press doesn't make it true. If being in the same room with someone unsavory is enough to damn a person, what about all those pictures of Republican dignitaries with Saddam Hussein or members of the Taliban? If so, I guess Rumsfeld is a terrorist. If you're still worried about it, do some research. Then bring facts, not fear-mongering half truths.
Part of the Obamamaniacs creed is to infiltrate and clutter Alaska's media to try and slander and smear the Republican candidates. Look at Ted Stevens, funny how his charges and indictments come during the height of a reelection campaign. Don Young being smeared with TV ads from the Democratic Senatorial Campaign Committee, which does not endorse or represent any Democratic nominee...Hogwash!!!! True smear campaigns and in Alaska. If Sarah hadn't been selected as the VP alot of the crap we are deluged with wouldn't even make it out of the lower 48.
Rachel. I am from Alaska and have lived here for over 10 years. I live in North Pole and have seen a dramatic increase in the number of names appearing on this comment section. Willing to place a hefty bet that alot are from outside of Alaska and are only here to stir up and smear.
DON THE TINFOIL HATS, EVERYONE!
Notice how the media is 90% about how bad the McCain/Palin ticket is and 90% about how good the Obama/Biden ticket is? If Obama gets elected the scariest part is the Obama/Pelosi/Reid trio. Talk about Larry, Moe, and Curly.
"what was up with Biden mouthing words and winking himself during the debate, ... all directed at Gwen Ifell. Explain that."
Uh. Maybe because Ifill's a babe... and smart to boot.
Rachel,
I'm no scientist, so forgive me if I don't know the exact science of it all, ... but I do recall Mt. St. Helen blowing it's "side", I do recall world scientists on the news telling us the median earth temperature would drop 1 to 2 degrees. Whether it did or not, I don't recall. I know that it spewed enough pollution in the air to trump anything mankind has been able to throw in the air since the Industrial revolution. I know that yearly, hundreds of volcano's spout their gases and particulates into our air, easily trumping mankind's effect over and over and over again. I know the earth itself releases carbon dioxide and methane and sulphur by other means than simply by volcano, and huge amounts at a time.
To say that global warming is completely man-made is implausible. I believe that was the point Sarah Palin was making. Even then, she has conceded that it would be good policy to be "greener," to search for renewable sources of energy, to strive and produce cleaner-burning fuels.
Just because she has stated that she doesn't believe all environmental conditions are man-made, ... is that really the basis of the environmentalist vote?
http://img263.imageshack.us/my.php?image...
Ponderous,
You're right that volcanos spout greenhouse gases. But these don't happen all that often. The precipitous rise in greenhouse gases since the 1970's just isn't accounted for by Mt. St. Helens or any other natural disaster in the last 30-50 years. The effect of Mt. St. Helens isn't very much in comparison with man-made emissions. Here's what a quick Internet search got me:
"Present-day carbon dioxide (CO2) emissions from subaerial and submarine volcanoes are uncertain at the present time. Gerlach (1991) estimated a total global release of 3-4 x 10E12 mol/yr from volcanoes. While this is a conservative estimate, man-made (anthropogenic) CO2 emissions overwhelm this estimate by at least 150 times."
http://volcano.oregonstate.edu/education...
Gerlach, T.M., 1991, Present-day CO2 emissions from volcanoes: Transactions of the American Geophysical Union (EOS), v. 72, p. 249, and 254-255.
And here's what Palin said:
"Well, as the nation's only Arctic state and being the governor of that state, Alaska feels and sees impacts of climate change more so than any other state. And we know that it's real.
I'm not one to attribute every man -- activity of man to the changes in the climate. There is something to be said also for man's activities, but also for the cyclical temperature changes on our planet.
But there are real changes going on in our climate. And I don't want to argue about the causes."
She did stumble right at the point where she was stating how much she attributes to human beings, and so her statement is admittedly unclear. Her sentence structure is unclear, too. Shouldn't she have said, "I'm not one to attribute every change in the climate to the activity of man" and not the other way around? I don't take issue with a stumble, but her not wanting to "argue about the causes" says to me that she thinks those causes ARE arguable. And that's what I think is naive.
I think not being experts on the environment is understandable for average citizens. But I don't think it's so understandable for a person who wants to potentially steer or veto environmental bills to be uninformed about it.
I'm glad she doesn't plan to insist that global climate change isn't even happening, like the current administration has done. But if we're going to succeed in changing it, I want my leaders to know what they're dealing with. Biden was clearly more informed on this issue on Thursday. Here's what he said:
"Well, I think it is manmade. I think it's clearly manmade. And, look, this probably explains the biggest fundamental difference between John McCain and Barack Obama and Sarah Palin and Joe Biden -- Gov. Palin and Joe Biden.
If you don't understand what the cause is, it's virtually impossible to come up with a solution. We know what the cause is. The cause is manmade. That's the cause. That's why the polar icecap is melting."
Here's a simple question for you BigDan. And it has nothing to do with politics. I'll doubt you'll answer but here it is. Why does Palin look unproffesional and unprepared during her lastest tv stints? Why is it that when she has nothing to say she winks, smiles and babbles about nothing having to do with the supject at hand? Why should I vote for someone who, when I see her, looks like she's putting on a show and trying to con us? If you can answer those questions maybe we can then talk about the important stuff. To me, first impressions mean a lot and so far she's fallen very short.
By the way, Thurday night on NBC, SNL is having a live special showing starring no other than our Gov. Sarah Palin. I can't wait to see what new material Sarah has for Tina. (It's almost like Palin meets with Fey to come up with skits) I hope Palin does something really stupid this time. It will definatley be a benifit to our humor.
BigDan,
I actually never doubted that you were an Alaskan.
About Ted Stevens -- is it just the timing that bothers you about that? Do his proven actions not bother you at all?
I'm not asking that rhetorically or disrespectfully. I'd really like to hear what you have to say about that.
Personally, I've never liked Ted Stevens much, and I'm glad to see him held accountable for his good-ole-boy corrruption. I worry that the timing of these hearings will allow many people to overlook the deplorability of his actions because they'll chaulk it up to partisan politics. I don't like the timing either.
So, ... Biden is believable in regard to green policy because he says it's manmade? I appreciated your support Rachel, but at the end, you say Biden was right because he said it was manmade and clearly manmade, ... so, he is right because he says he's right?
McCain reminds me of Yosemite Sam - guns blazing, lots of muttering, but not quite sure what's actually going on. Palin is just drunk on power and won't admit that she's out of her league. That said, I don't cast my vote based on who's the better speaker, or more polished -although it really is nice when they know what they're talking about and don't try to string together a bunch of sound bites. I vote for the candidate whose views on the issues seem to best match my own and who has the vision and intelligence to move forward. McCain "the Maverick" has had 26 years to reform things, D.C. never seemed to bother him until Bush's numbers tanked and Obama started talking about change. Now he's suddenly a "reformer". I disagree with McCain on everything from the war in Iraq to a woman's right to choose. That's why my choice is Obama-Biden. It simply reaffirms my choice when McCain tries Rovian swiftboat tactics and Palin can't string a sentence together on her own. She's a loose cannon when they allow her to talk unscripted. They're a ridiculous pair and America deserves better after what we've had for the last eight years.
No, he's right because he stated the position that is supported by the most science.
akmjf29 - Because she isn't polished like a professional politician and answers the way she knows how. If you are voting on someone just because they are a polished speaker than that is a very shallow argument. Putting on a show and trying to con us? Sounds like Obama and Biden hammering away at McCain and stating he is responsible for the last 8 Bush years and a vote for him is 4 more years of Bush.
John McCain and Sarah Palin arenot George Bush. In fact, many conservatives don't like them. They are a team who will do what it takes to make this country better and put partisan politics aside.
People aren't stupid and they know that a liberal president and liberal Congress will raise our taxes, Democratic president has done it every time, continue to give spend trillions of dollars on new programs, back to raising taxes again.
Rachel - Ted Stevens has unequivicolly stated that he paid the bills he received for the work that was done. His wife was more in charge of the remodeling project than he was. he was in Washington DC doing what a Senator does.
Bill Allen, the governments star witness, is an accused pedophile who the government is giving a free ride to testify against Ted Stevens. Now who is the criminal, Ted Stevens or the government and Bill Allen?
The prosecuting attorneys have withheld documents from the defense and almost caused a mistrial. I believe, as many others do, that Ted Stevens was indicted during the reelection process, to taint his reputation and try and steal his Senate seat for the Democrats.
Wasn't there an article in the paper last week saying that the temp increase had stopped.
Did an increase in sun spot activity lead to a warming trend on Mars? Does CO2 cause an increase in temp or does it's concentration in the atmosphere increase as temps rise?
All interesting questions, unfortunately we can't discuss these issues as Al Gore has declared the debate to be over. Non believes are now fair game for ridicule.
Another question, haven't a lot of people made a lot of money from the global warming scare?
Tina Fey's rendition of Sarah Palin is genius! The only sad thing is that it's the dummy (Palin) running for VP instead of the genius (Fey).
Rachel, you're right on.
Secet - I read that Rolling Stone article earlier today and believe it should be on the front page of every newspaper in the nation. I knew McCain was a lying scumbag, but had no idea of the degree of his scumbagness until I read the article. If Obama had McCain's history, he'd be run out of the race on a rail! It's a long article, but I sure hope people take the time to read it. Everything in it is documented and attributed, unlike the "Obama was a Muslim" crap conservatives keep drumming up.
Pawprint, You're right about SNL being much harder on Hillary than Sarah! I don't watch the mainstream media very often, but CNN showed the SNL skit, then the real interview and the skit was word for word what Sarah had spouted! That evil Katie Couric has GOT to stop using that "gotcha" journalism though! Asking Palin such unfair questions like, "What newspapers do you read?" is totally out of line.
I have issues with Obama and with Biden, but they're clearly the most qualified for the jobs. Obama is a Constitutional attorney, not just a "Harvard graduate." Palin's lame put-downs of him being a community organizer made her look like a real jerk. Obama could have gone to work on Wall Street and made billions, but chose instead to try and organize people to help make the worse places in his town better. I can't imagine McCainiac going into "bad" neighborhoods and working with lower-income people on a regular basis to help make them safer, more functional communities. Obama walks his talk. McCain just talks out of both sides of his mouth, (as well as that lower orifice). Here's a small sample of that:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GEtZlR3zp...
Actually, I'd vote for Tina before I'd vote for Sarah. Tina is only ACTING ignorantly about world issues. I'll bet Tina would kick Sarah's butt if they had a debate.
Roadtrip - green fuels are better for the environment. Even if you don't count global warming, fossil fuels are FILTHY TOXIC WASTE, and we are poisoning our global nest with them. We were warned four years ago not eat the fish out of rivers and lakes in the lower 48 because they're so mercury-laden! How bad does it have to get before we stop pooping in our own nest?
If we had spent the Iraq war money on solar panels, bio-fuel farms, and other clean energy sources, we'd be better off in many ways. That trillion dollars could have bought solar panels for every home in America. Plus, we'd be off of oil and wouldn't have had to murder over a million people for the filthy toxic waste under their soil. Exxon/Mobil, Chevron, BP, and Shell wouldn't have gotten their billion dollar, no-bid, Iraq oil contracts though, and Halliburton wouldn't have made their billions, and Exxon/Mobil wouldn't have made record war-for-oil profits, so yeah, we had to invade. We've got to think outside the barrel if we want to thrive as a nation.
1995-1999, Chicago Annenberg Challenge, Bill Ayers, ACORN (the Association of Community Organizations for Reform Now). I take it back, Lord Obama has acomplished somthing.
Roadtrip, why is it okay for big oil to rip Americans off for billions and billions of dollars while poisoning the planet, but not okay for greens to make money from clean energy? That's just warped!
accomplished something.
Spelling never was my forte.
Just a dumb redneck you know.
OK, lets nationalise the oil industry. We just nationalised the finance industry. Whats next?
To answer your question it's called the free market.
Wow, Doris, I just read your 11:22 post. My mistake, I thought you were rational.
I watched the debate wanting to see Sarah, be the strong educated woman we elected for our governor. I was offended by her performance, as a republican, as an Alaskan ,as a woman, and as a middle class worker. The act she put on was an insult to everything I am. Does she really think that the average American relates to hey phrases like “by golly” and “ Joe six-pack”? She had some great points but it's all lost on me once she started speaking to me, ( that’s what she said she was there for, to talk to main stream America) like I'm ignorant and uneducated. I’m embarrassed. Sarah let Tina do the acting it suits her fans better.
I think Sarah did a wonderful job, even Biden and the moderator thought she was wonderful.
She held her own, and thankfully, I felt she was at my level, not a snooty Washington legislature.
Your darn right those lawmakers have a lot to be scared of. Helluva lot of fear running down their spines. Go get em Sarah!
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