Letter to the Editor
Obama’s campaign
Published Tuesday, July 22, 2008
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To the editor:
Sen. Obama is a man that exudes candor and sincerity. Many people think of him as a person with integrity, intelligence and genuine goodwill. This all dissipates, however, when one begins to realize that his record fundamentally disagrees with the nation’s founding principles.
These principles are best summed up in the Declaration of Independence which states: “We hold that all men are created equal ... endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable rights ... among these are life ...”
Obama is on record as believing that some people don’t have the right to life — not just the unborn, but those in the process of being born (he supports the procedure commonly known as partial-birth abortion) and those who have been born accidentally during an abortion (he has helped preserve the practice commonly known as “live-birth abortion” ever since he was in the Illinois Legislature).
Further, he wants all Americans to pay for unrestricted abortions via the Freedom of Choice Act which would essentially and ironically remove the term “choice” from the equation. He also supports federal funding for embryonic stem-cell research which would force all people to pay for fatal experiments performed on the tiniest of human beings.
Regardless of talk about the economy, immigration and even the war in Iraq, abortion is the preeminent issue of our day. More than 1 million people are killed in the U.S. each year through “big-business” abortion.
State-sponsored killing is an intrinsic evil that, for moral and even monetary reasons outranks everything else.
Obama is a likable guy. Voters, however, should not let themselves be sweet-talked by such politicians who seem wonderful but who reject what America stands for.
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Obama is a very good speaker, and has a way with words, but he is wrong on so many things. He will say whatever it takes to be elected.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9siP9Hd8D...
He is so far left that he makes Hillary look conservative.
His tax and spend plans will also kill any incentive for growth, but provide much incentive to file for welfare, free pills, and other federal 'handouts'.
I won't be voting for Obama, but not because of his stance on abortion. I'm not as opposed to abortion, as I am opposed to those that seek to impose their "moral" values on others. The harpies that hang out protesting at abortion clinics ought to be ashamed of themselves. I'm ashamed of them.
All I heard Senator Obama state is that he trusts WOMEN to make their own decisions concerning their bodies and health. Do men have government intrusion in the Dr.'s office with them?
Abortion is NOT the preeminent issue of our day.
Good grief, Millions, of already here, homeless, unwanted, abused, neglected, hungry, traded, sold children all across America is more important!
An estimated 1.2 million children are trafficked each year.(UNICEF)
In the United States alone the U.S. Department of State estimated in 2001 that 200,000 - 300,000 children were trafficked in-country.
Many cases may go unreported making the real number of trafficked children much higher.
Trafficking continues to grow because of demand and it is one of the most lucrative criminal industries. Interpol estimates trafficking as the third biggest industry (a multi – billion dollar operation) after drugs and firearms. One of the reasons being, children can be sold again and again for different purposes including, but not limited to, sex tourism, prostitution and labor.
http://www.internationalresourcecentre.o...
Until Children are none of these things, abortion is NOT the preeminent issue of our day and should not be at the forfront of the conversation!
You do know this whole last 7.5 years is paid by credit card dont you? That debt is sitting there getting bigger? You realize who ever gets this big dump will have to deal with it, right?
The spend and look the other way days are coming to an end people...times will be tough for a while. Put the Hummer mentality up on blocks, tighten the belt and try not to whine about how much it is going to hurt....your votes for the last 2 cycles put us where we are.
You will like this one:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OgtaX6dJ3...
I will vote for Obama as a vote against McCain. McCain has promised to continue the economic policies that the current administration used to return the nation to stagflation. We cut taxes yet increased spending tremendously. We now borrow our monies for the Iraq war. We borrowed the monies for the stimulus. We are in debt to foreign countries and industries. This has led to a devalued dollar, and the devalued dollar has led to inflation. I suggest folks start reading Business Week magazine and learn to follow the money. You can see that the price we are paying for oil is tied to the devalued dollar in the Wall Street Journal at:
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB12115008...
A vote for McCain will be a vote for stagflation.
if you think abortion is a good or right thing, then think, what if your mom thought the same. if she did you wouldnt be here to speak your views about it.
peace
Anyone stupid enough to vote for Obama the rookie will deserve what they get. Personally I believe his election could turn out to be a positive thing in the long run people my age will be reminded of the Carter Administration. And younger voters will get a history lesson. You recall those years, don't you? A president who was a world laughingstock and treated like a clueless fool? Through the roof inflation. the Iran hostage situation. A repeat of that kind of presidency will kill drive more people away from the democrat party then ever before.
So go ahead and vote for him, it will be historic electing America's first black president. Just a shame you have to settle for the first one that made the cut...who happens to be totally unprepared and incompetant.
As to the current national debt. I see it mentioned more and more by people ranting about the Obamassia. Sort of like they want to make sure they have their main excuse for his failure and the sinking of the economy all ready to go. I can already hear the bleating..."It's not his fault, he inherited the problem."
blazer - I would be cautious, lumping all of us who believe in life into what you call the "harpies" who hang out protesting. I've never done this a day in my life, yet I absolutely am in favor of the right to life.
"..he trusts WOMEN to make their own decisions concerning their bodies and health." - NativeAlaskan.
You are completely missing the point of the letter. Yes, the writer does not believe in abortion at all, but specifically, he is citing examples of Obama's stand on the controversial partial-birth abortion and live-birth method of abortion. In one case and frequently in the other, the baby is born ALIVE! When this happens, the child is simply placed on a shelf till it expires. This is infantcide and it is cruel and wrong. A woman's choice? Even if you believe in early abortion (which I don't, but for the sake of the argument), ... a woman's choice? It was up until the baby took it's first breath. After that, it is murder.
Mr. Smith,
You make some very good points in your letter to the editor. I do not support abortion. To be honest Sen. Obama's record is a scary one to me anyway. I have read some of the bills he sponsored in the Illinois Legislature, makes me shiver.
Sure he is a good speaker and he does have a way with words. However, he will tax, tax and tax some more so he can fund all of his "CHANGE" programs for the common good of the people.
GVEA says another rate increase is needed, heating oil and other fuels continue rise. "IF" Obama does get elected with his TAX, TAX and more TAX plus the price of fuels, food and everything else affected by the cost of transportation, I just might end up in one of his smoke screen "CHANGE" lines, aka welfare.
I know my post does not even begin to scratch the surface on the many issues Obama is so wrong on. I simply shake my head when I see the amount of support he has. He says what people want to hear. This being the big election, he will continue to say what people want to hear. I for one do not buy what he is selling, snake oil.
The Sen. from Illinois will NOT get my vote.
God Bless America, God Bless Our Troops and God Bless the Sound of Freedom!
My parents were farmers who voted democrat back in the day,
they now say that the democratic party has nothing to do with them, thier morals, values, or anything else.
They are disgusted by what the democratic party chooses to battle for.
Vote for Jackie Broyles. He's the Christianisty candidate.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ErkzpaORU...
I won't be voting for Obama, but it has nothing to do with his stance on abortion.
I'm with bogtrotter, let him win. The backlash from 4-years of this man as President is bound to be worth it...I think?
Joe,
"State-sponsored killing is an intrinsic evil that, for moral and even monetary reasons outranks everything else."
What do you think is going on in Iraq - which McCain endorses and promises more of. You claim that you're "pro-life", voting against embryonic stem-cell research which is medical research to help save lives but you endorse war which has killed hundreds of thousands of people in Iraq in the name of "the war on terrorism" which has produced nothing but dead bodies and money in the pocket of Government contractors.
Maybe you should rethink your priorities. Vote McCain means more war and death. Vote McCain means more money for big oil and Government contractors. Vote McCain means less taxes for the upper class and the middle class gets stuck with same old bush economics plan.
But hey McCain does promise to let us all keep our guns at least.
Give me a break people!!!
Every time I hear "tax and spend" applied to a democratic candidate, I get pissed off. Let's think logically here.
Spending money you HAVE is better than spending money you don't. If Democrats are tax and spend, then Republicans are spend and spend. And spend and spend and spend and spend. And spend some more.
Here's a bit of trivia. Who are the three presidents who have increased spending by the largest amount since WW2? I'll give you a hint. Two of them are related and the third was an actor. That's right! Ronald, George I and George II. What a bunch of damn liberals those guys must have been.
ABORTION IS MURDER!!!!!!!! NO IF'S AND'S OR BUT'S. GOD WILL BRING A SPEEDY JUDGMENT ON THOSE WHO CHOSE TO MURDER.
Obama is not going to raise taxes on the lower to middle class. He plans on asking for tax cuts to those groups. He is only going to raise taxes on those that make more than $250,000 a year. And he is against late term abortions unless there is going to be harm to the child or mother. If you're not going to vote for Obama then don't but, at least be correctly informed on what his positions are and not just what the republican talking points are.
cmunro - hate to disagree with you on all your points, but I will. My opinion: Why tax the wealthy more than the middle class, simply because they have found monetary success? I don't have the studies in hand, but I do feel by taxing the so-called "rich", we labor the very sources that invest in small business, which directly influences the job market and the economy. Okay, that's my opinion on that, ...
Now to the real meat of my disagreement with you. Show me evidence that Obama is only against late term abortions if it jeopordizes the mother? That is an absolutely false statement on your end. Obama sees no difference in early, middle, or late term abortions. None. I provide you with my proof, the following is clip-pasted:
By Jill Stanek
In February 2004, U.S. Senate candidate Barack Obama's wife, Michelle, sent a fund-raising letter with the "alarming news" that "right-wing politicians" had passed a law stopping doctors from stabbing half-born babies in the neck with scissors, suctioning out their brains and crushing their skulls.
Michelle called partial-birth abortion "a legitimate medical procedure," and wouldn't supporters please pay $150 to attend a luncheon for her husband, who would fight against "cynical ploy[s]" to stop it?
But that's not why Obama's opponent Alan Keyes said Jesus Christ wouldn't vote for him.
Obama recalled Keyes' statement in a recent USA Today opinion piece but omitted his reasoning.
I know his reasoning, because I was there.
As a nurse at an Illinois hospital in 1999, I discovered babies were being aborted alive and shelved to die in soiled utility rooms. I discovered infanticide.
Legislation was presented on the federal level and in various states called the Born Alive Infants Protection Act. It stated all live-born babies were guaranteed the same constitutional right to equal protection, whether or not they were wanted.
BAIPA sailed through the U.S. Senate by unanimous vote. Even Sens. Clinton, Kennedy and Kerry agreed a mother's right to "choose" stopped at her baby's delivery.
The bill also passed overwhelmingly in the House. NARAL went neutral on it. Abortion enthusiasts publicly agreed that fighting BAIPA would appear extreme. President Bush signed BAIPA into law in 2002.
But in Illinois, the state version of BAIPA repeatedly failed, thanks in large part to then-state Sen. Barack Obama. It only passed in 2005, after Obama left.
I testified in 2001 and 2002 before a committee of which Obama was a member.
Obama articulately worried that legislation protecting live aborted babies might infringe on women's rights or abortionists' rights. Obama's clinical discourse, his lack of mercy, shocked me. I was naive back then. Obama voted against the measure, twice. It ultimately failed.
In 2003, as chairman of the next Senate committee to which BAIPA was sent, Obama stopped it from even getting a hearing, shelving it to die much like babies were still being shelved to die in Illinois hospitals and abortion clinics.
(As chair of that same committee, Obama once abruptly ended a hearing early, right before Scott and Janet Willis, the parents of six children killed as a result of Illinois' drivers licenses for bribes scandal, were to testify in favor of Choose Life license plate legislation. I was there for that one, too. The Willises had traveled three hours. Reporters filled the room. Obama stalled. He later killed the bill when no one was around.)
So, the reason Keyes said Jesus Christ wouldn't vote for Barack Obama was because of Obama's fanatical support of abortion to the point of condoning infanticide.
I have framed on my wall a Chicago Sun-Times cartoon published during the campaign. Obama is holding a sign with "LIVE BIRTH ABORTION" on it. God is reaching down from heaven to a baby in front of Obama, and the baby is reaching up to God. Obama is yelling at God, "You keep out of this!"
In his USA Today opinion piece, Obama admitted being "nagged" by the Jesus-wouldn't-vote-for-him statement, but only because he wished he'd given a different comeback.
Obama insinuated opposition to abortion is based only on religion, lecturing pro-lifers like me to "explain why abortion violates some principle that is accessible to people of all faiths, including those with no faith at all."
I don't recall mentioning religion when I testified against live-birth abortion. I only recall describing a live aborted baby I held in a hospital soiled utility room until he died, and a live aborted baby who was accidentally thrown into the trash.
Neither do I recall religion being brought into the partial-birth abortion ban debate. I recall comparisons made to U.S. laws ensuring animals being killed are treated humanely. I recall testimony that late-term babies feel excruciating pain while being aborted.
Obama stated pro-life proposals must be "amenable to reason."
OK, Sen. Obama, let's reason. Explain why you support abortion for whatever rationale, at whatever gestation, by whatever means. Explain why you support infanticide, if banning it might interfere with abortion.
Then, since you brought it up, explain how, despite all that, you think Jesus should vote for you, either now or in the hereafter, particularly given His statement, "It would be better to be thrown into the sea with a large millstone tied around the neck than to face the punishment in store for harming one of these little ones."
Jill Stanek fought to stop "live-birth abortion" after witnessing one as a registered nurse at Christ Hospital in Oak Lawn, Ill. In 2002, President Bush asked Jill to attend his signing of the Born Alive Infants Protection Act. In January 2003, World Magazine named Jill one of the 30 most prominent pro-life leaders of the past 30 years.
I must be the only person in Fairbanks who has been hurt by the outrageous price of heating oil. Last October, I paid $2.70/gallon and in the first week of May it was $3.83/gallon. And yet the folks of Fairbanks think abortion is the main problem for the country! You folks must want to pay $7-$8/gallon for heating oil.
Look at the piece in the New York Times from 2 days ago on McCain.
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/07/20/opinio...
You really want this? You think McCain is even your answer to abortion?
Get real, like Jesus would carry a gun and vote republican???
[Of course Jesus would vote for Obama...]
And who would Allah, vote for ?
Batman that is exactly what got us here - Vote you wallet not your conscience. Kill thousands to save yourself a buck - wow i bet your proud of yourself.