Fairbanks cannot ignore gang violence
Real or copycat — threat is the same
Published Wednesday, September 3, 2008
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Stumble It!Hello Fairbanks. We’re heading into autumn, which has always been my favorite time of year. Mornings are often clear and cool, and those pesky yellow birch leaves are already conspiring to clog my rain gutters. Perhaps most exciting, it’s time to start thinking about moose hunting.
Unfortunately, most of the shooting that has recently occurred in and around Fairbanks has nothing to do with responsible hunting preparations. Rather, there have been several instances involving gunfire by self-professed gang members on our streets, placing innocent Fairbanks bystanders at substantial risk.
Considering that our small city is located amidst some of the most wild and beautiful country on Earth, it is hard to believe that anyone would want to import and/or sustain the degenerate and depraved behaviors associated with the “gang lifestyle.” However — make no mistake — it is here. While we have worked proactively in the past several years to interdict such activity through partnerships with the Division of Juvenile Justice, the school district and our military, our community remains at risk for experiencing the same type of proliferation and expansion of gang-related activities that we all have witnessed during the past 30 years in Anchorage.
One of the most common questions that I receive from residents is whether or not these are real gang members, or if they are just wannabes who are acting out. This is a legitimate question, which I’ll answer in two parts.
First, we see a mixture of both real gang members and wannabes here in Fairbanks. More often than not, gang members with true affiliations will come to Fairbanks from other locales, either on their own volition or sometimes through military transfers. While I have tremendous support and respect for the active-duty military members serving in our community, it is an unfortunate reality that a small number of their personnel continue to provide a true gang conduit to the Lower 48. Once here, these individuals see our city as relatively wide open and often begin to associate with local wannabes in an effort to organize new activity. Luckily, in a community as small as ours, this type of activity will not go unnoticed for long. We respond aggressively to these flare-ups, and, in my 20 years here at the Fairbanks Police Department, I can recall several spates of organizational activity and associated criminal behavior that has led to the arrest and long-term incarceration of such potential ringleaders, effectively quashing any further development.
My second (and perhaps more important) reply to this question is: “Does it matter?” From my perspective, whether one is a true Crip, Blood, etc., or just a wanna-be is largely irrelevant. When one of these individuals decides to start selling drugs, carrying guns and/or committing crimes of violence against others based on colors of clothing and self-professed associations, they represent the same level of danger to our community, irrespective of the “authenticity” of their claimed affiliations.
I was contacted by a rather well-known business leader this weekend who was understandably shocked and dismayed by the recent shooting on College Road. One point we quickly came to agreement on: We do not want to see Fairbanks evolve into another Anchorage. I attended high school in Anchorage, graduating in the early ’80s. I have watched in dismay during the past 30 years as gang violence has entrenched itself in that city and now seems to be begrudgingly accepted as part of life there. I’m a firm believer that an ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure, and that any investment that we make in ensuring that gang violence doesn’t become entrenched in this community will be far cheaper than trying to displace a strongly established gang presence in later years.
The Fairbanks Police Department will continue to work in close partnership with the Alaska State Troopers, Department of Juvenile Justice, Fairbanks North Star Borough School District and our military partners in addressing gang-related issues in Fairbanks. I trust that our city’s residents will understand that the sizeable borough population that surrounds our small city, to include a significant military component, presents an exceptional challenge when trying to provide for preventive, proactive resources.
Dan Hoffman is chief of the Fairbanks Police Department.
Community Discussion
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Thank you for all the hard work you and everyone else do! I appreciate the protection and risks you take on to provide it.
The solution to gang violence will involve more than just the Fairbanks police department. It will take our entire community getting involved in order to eradicate this problem.
Education is key. A lot of folks wouldn't know a gang banger if they were looking one in the eye. Other gang bangers would, of course, but not the general public.
Fairbanks Police Department, you have an expert on gang violence in this city on your staff. Lorna Weese. She has the knowledge to recognize gang trademarks, and gang affiliation. She also has the ability to communicate this knowledge effectively to the general public.
Education is key. Knowledge is key. I truly believe that Fairbanks can stem gang violence before it gets any worse. But the only way to do so is to have full participation from the Fairbanks community - the Police Department can't be everywhere at all moments, and because of this, will need the active participation of community members. Lorna has the knowledge, and the ability to communicate her knowledge to the community. Engage her talents in this effort.
I agree with LadyNYC that the solution to gang violence will involve more than the Fairbanks Police Department. It will also involve more than the activities of law enforcement. It will involve greater understanding of the motives behind gang affiliation, and our addressing them on a society-wide scale.
To suppose, as too many do, that increasing the number of police, raising minimum jail sentences, instituting the death penalty, and arming our citizenry to the teeth -- ass-kicking answers, every one -- will "solve" gang violence is erroneous. It is to suppose that the root cause of gang violence is a general lack of ass-kicking: that people join gangs simply because they lack sufficient fear of getting punished.
I confess not to being an expert in the sociology of criminal gangs. But I'm sure that they offer their members actual psychological and social benefits -- other than cool cars and the joy of packing heat -- and that joining a gang is in many ways a very sane choice.
What benefits might gang affiliation offer? Excitement in an otherwise dull life? Brotherhood? Membership in something greater than oneself? A sense of identity?
I'm not saying for certain that these *are* the benefits of gang membership, or, if they are, that they are *all* the benefits. These are hypotheses that should be confirmed (or denied) by social scientists. But they are plausible. And it is more than plausible that gang members get *some* intangible benefits that they see no other way of getting.
What are the unmet needs of people who turn into gang members? How do we as a society fail them? What can we do differently?
Nothing like trying to turn a topic like gangs into a Hallmark greeting card. Cut the sugar coating and start informing the public about what is really going on in this community.
Paul everyone does things for one of four reasons; love/be loved, to feel important, variety and most importantly to live. Some where along the line they have put a belief in the window they see life through that tells them that by being a part of this group one of these basic needs is being filled. Most times, it is only a cover for the real scar and they need to communicate with others to find out what happened in their life that placed a belief in their window of perceived reality that makes them feel entering a gang filed that hole. Could be a sense of belonging, wanting more, a need to be larger in life then they feel they might be with the world social order they way it is. The key in what I said was the communication. People, all people (self included) need to spend more time with the people in their life talking about real things and not just the Sunday football game. As much as it was a joke, one of the truest statements made was from Chris Rock when he said "Parents need to talk to their children and its gotta be more than 'daddy will be right back.'"
If education is the key - how come a majority of these fellas are HS dropouts?
I doubt they care much about your education....time to get tough
Thank You for this information first. Secondly, we need to make drug houses in our community a top priority. I understand it requires more resources to shut such operations down, but this is the life blood of such characters.
Mr. Adasiak, the country began to to adopt such an approach back in the early seventies. Bad behavior has been on a meteoric rise ever since. All sorts of folks have gone through all kinds of privations over the years without deciding that it entitles them to steal, run drugs, and shoot people. Amazingly enough there is this thing called free will, and this other thing called responsibility. What we have been doing is telling people who act badly that there are all manner of excuses for it. We have removed the consequences for bad behavior.
There are two main causes here. One is idiotic irresponsible parents (who themselves probably had idiotic irresponsible parents) who will not take proper care in raising their kids. The other is a society that refuses to demonstrate that there are consequences for bad behavior. When a fourteen year old commits a crime, we hide it, and we hide the person who did it. If these little darlings got their photo in a story on the front page of the paper that advised folks not to let them any where near their homes and businesses and pointing out how they have brought shame on themselves and their family then they would have to face a little public disapprobation and would find out that this sort of thing is unacceptable. When we fail to do this, we insure that they will continue this behavior, as there is no real reason not to. If you have a twenty four year old gang banger running around you can bet any part of your anatomy you like that this behavior did not start at twenty one.
I agree Some_Guy...
Protecting these "gangsters" from the embarassment of what they're doing is wrong, regardless of age. We like to protect minors from the news media, but why??? They're committing "grown-up" crimes. They should pay the same price for admission as adults. Public humility and consequences for their actions are very important to the learning curve.
you phoneys, protect scum but lets trash a 17 year old girl.
sourdough, you don't really expect the newminer board to reply to this do you?
Several years ago I recall an FBI expert on gangs speaking on local radio.
I found his take on "wannabes" to be quite insightful. He said in the past town after town dismissed punks as "wannabes" and they now have real gang problems.
He said they are not "wannabes" they are "gonnabes" (going-to-bes) unless they are nipped in the bud.
Hoffman has to be pc, I don't. Lock the gates of Wainwright and the gang problem evaporates....dies by attrition. But don't worry that is coming. Stevens is history and Wainwright will be on the base closure list and he won't be around to save it. It is inevitable.
As far as picking on the Palin girl brain, her mommy's ambition opened the doors for a public notice concerning a shotgun wedding. Besides that, was queenie to busy to get her some birth control pills brain? Put the blame where most of it belongs, queenie neglected her. Family values, remember?
dog
Some_Guy I agree with the others you have a FINE idea there.:D
These gang banger punks should have their faces and names published in the newspaper when they commit crimes, warning the general public of their presence and who they are. There would be NO hiding behind mommie or daddy once in the public's eye.LOL
Its unfortunate that Bristol Palin happens to be the media's scape goat this time in the attack against her mother but they'll do anything for a story it seems.(UGH)
Maybe it's time for law-abiding, gun-carrying, citizens to get in some range practice so that when we do have to 'return fire' we can hit what we're shooting at without hitting a bunch of innocent bystandars (which seems to be the hallmark of most of these gangbangers)...
LadyNYC- If you don't know how to identify a "gangbanger", you must have just awakened from a coma.
WtWlly, I took a Forensic Science class, and for a little while, we studied the "criminal mind". While it would be good to warn people of who these gonnabe gang members are, and it would be good for them to face consequences, we learned that people who engage in criminal activity actually like it when the media gives them recognition. As some people were pointing out, people can be motivated to these sorts of activities because they cannot find recognition in other places. People who do these sorts of things are obviously not thinking like a normal person would, and might not be shamed by having their inappropriate behavior broadcasted. That is, unfortunately, the way people like that work.
In regards to putting these punks faces on the news miner and on local television, local media outlets no longer have access to booking photos. Up until about 2003 a reporter could request a booking photo for publication. Whomever was in charge of state corrections in 03 put a stop to it, claiming it was a violation of privacy.
To diogenesFBKS,
The reality is that despite your uneducated opinion about the military and its unwillingness to control gang activity by simply locking the gates (this only demonstrates your ignorance), it seems that you have issue(s) with our military. Fort Wainwright is here to stay; the BRAC will not close a base that is becoming more critical in the fight against terrorism. Grant it that Sen. Stevens may or may not be on his way out, but the military is and will continue to be an integral part of the Fairbanks community and will not succumb to gang flares up.
As a military retiree who served for 20 years in the U.S. Army, we must insist that both the civilian and military communities work together to give solutions, not criticism of this problem; save your political and personal views of our military for someone who gives a damn about listening to dumb rhetoric. This problem will be conquered with or without your help.
I understand you spending 20 years in the military, it's tough out here in the real world. It'll be a great day when they close Wainwright and send the boys packing. It is coming and with Stevens history, sooner than later.
You've done a hell of job so far.Bin Laden is still giving us the finger.
dog
dog,
During my 20 years of service the wolf didn't come through the door. Today, our armed forces are fighting a very unconventional war,and as an American and a citizen of Alaska, I am very proud of their service which allows you to go about your life in the real world as an ignorant and misinformed individual. Its obvious that you digress from the actual conversation about gangs and would rather discuss an issue that personally bothers you, the military, and by reading your comments, you must either a). havent the intestinal fortitude to join and serve your country and pay your rent for the freedom we have or b). are totally clueless to what the real problem is here in Fairbanks; words of ignorance spoken by those who refuse to find a solution to the problem and would rather stir the sh*** because they are lost in what you call the real world".
P.S.
Discussion over dog, roger and out
drex82;
Ignore him, her or it- they are all the same. They try to drag you down to their level by calling you names and insulting you. They don't debate the issues, they scream their socialist side of the topic and try to belittle their opposite hoping that you will waller in their mud hole with them.
Our failure at addressing the Parallelism & foundation of gang society.
Community roots is the foundation of a moral system, which presupposes a complete knowledge & use of the other sciences & is the ultimate level of wisdom to our children/youth/adults. Attainment of ethics & moral code is the wisdom that is sufficient foundation for balance & happiness within our society.
A fundamental weakness of the common stance of how to prevent & dissolve Children/Youth/adults gangs/crimes is that it focuses almost exclusively on law enforcement & consequentialism. The stance of our society; rest on a misunderstanding of the broader framework of people who have claimed affiliations or professed associations to gang society. Society generally lacks an insightful Parallelism of gang's philosophy with contributions of gang's ethics in relationship of our society's understanding of the framework of our society & community & philosophy or ethics. Association Brings Assimilation.
Our community’s well-being & the sense that the moral rightness of acts is based on the virtuous motives or characters of the community. Unless we take our community into account & are balanced & maintain that this consists in certain objective goods that virtuous motives are not only necessary but also a wise collective way sufficient for well being of our community.
The exclusion of or balances of the philosophies of...Principle of Beneficence in Applied Ethics, Value Pluralism, Moral, Special Obligations, Business Ethics, Legal Punishment, Virtue Ethics, Deontological Ethics, Environmental Ethics, Loyalty, Paternalism , Property , Action Agent-Neutral, Reflective Equilibrium ,Value Theory, Political, Consequentialism, Utilitarianism in the laws & customs. Our community neglect is our burden with our Children/Youth/adults adults who have claimed affiliations or professed associations to gangs/crimes. We must be clear in that we seek the intellectual truths for ethics as having a practical import as well of concern for the well being of others in our community. Children/Youth/adults exercising their capacity for judgment, they are confident of eventually acquiring all the true knowledge of which they are capable, in this way all the true benefits are within their/our reach. Association Brings Assimilation.
Mere social expectation is not sufficient to create associative obligations; our community must meet certain psychological requirements in order for our children/youth, be it a gang, a friendship, a team, a club, an association, a school, a faith, a family, or a community-state, to be the sort of community such that membership in that community, independent of choice or consent, grounds associative obligations. Association Brings Assimilation.
We have seen that the issue of Children/Youth/adults who have claimed affiliations or professed associations to gang/crimes as to whether we have obligations is key to some of the central issues in our community; ethics, including the viability of consequentialism (in all of its varieties) as a moral theory, the possibility & nature of agent-relative reasons, the relationship between voluntary action or association & the acquisition of duties or responsibilities, & the nature of self, family, friendship, & political community. We as a community must face issues about the role of the metaphysics of personal identity in determining features of morality & questions in moral epistemology, ethics, among other issues in our approach to our youth/family/community. To be as firm & decisive in our actions as we can, & to follow even the most doubtful opinions, once Children/Youth/adults has adopted them, with no less constancy than if they had been quite certain. To always instruct Children/Youth/adults to master themselves rather than fortune, & to change their desires rather than the order of the world.
1-3 how to act in the absence of any certain knowledge of good & evil (including the much-criticized deference to the laws & customs of our community:
1 we must regard our obligations as specially, distinctly within our community, rather than as general duties we owe equally to persons outside it.
2 we must accept that these responsibilities are personal; that they run directly from each citizen to each other citizen, not just to the community as a whole in some collective sense. ...
3 citizens must see these responsibilities as flowing from a more general responsibility each has of concern for the well being of others in our community ...
4. the possibility of cultivating our reason so as to arrive at knowledge of the truth of our community.
4 citizens must suppose that the community's practices show not only concern but also an equal concern for all citizens.
We have obligations to our community, our family, our Children & the taxpayers of the state. Physicians & therapists have obligations to their patients, police officers to the citizens of our jurisdictions, ministers to their flocks. Are these obligations mere obligations of role without moral implications, or are they genuinely moral obligations? How often our community can force us to make morally charged decisions; any study of the history of gangs shows how dangerous it can be for people to bow unreflectively to what they take to be the duties of their roles. Conflicts between perceived "special" obligations of position & more general duties created great tension & conflict for our gang details & judges to the issue of Children/Youth/adults adults who have claimed affiliations or professed associations to gang/crimes. In concerns about community & professional ethics, we need to have some account of which community & professional, if any, generate genuinely moral & ethical duties.
Perhaps the best answer to that is self-evident as to which is the strongest, always remembering that ‘self-evident’ does not mean ‘obvious,’ but, rather, ‘can be known or justifiably believed without any process of reasoning or inference.’ At this point, our community is involved in controversies in the moral scope of our community, as separate entities & ethics on Children/Youth/adults adults who have claimed affiliations or professed associations to gang/crimes in our community.
The concept of increasing attention to the virtues in role ethics can certainly be expected to grow in the future, & it looks as though applying virtue ethics in the field of community ethics may prove particularly fruitful in our community. Whether virtuous ethics & motives can be expected to grow into "virtue politics" to address Children/Youth/adults gang/crimes — i.e. to extend from moral philosophy into political philosophy to address Children/Youth/adults who have claimed affiliations or professed associations to gang/crimes — is not so clear for our community.
Association Brings Assimilation
Till we hold parents/family/adults, our community accountable that have the care of the "children" it's insane to try to stop the or to address Children/Youth/adults gang/crimes ". Yes you may get a few to listen without holding parenting parents/family/adults accountable for not creating a foundation of morals, ethics, for our Children/Youth. To fix the problem our community will have to do some things it does not seem willing to do. You will have to get involved. The years roll by & we lose if not.
I've seen school districts that charge the parents/family/adults "fines" for lack of enforcing homework done at home, behavior violations, to delinquent school attendance, to curfew, enforced by courts. To force parents/family/adults to be involved with their "children’s” educational, social, moral, emotional & community needs. We need to set up educationally & socially programs & contacts with our children/youth.
Our standards of our community, reflects on us just like our own parenting skills reflect on our own "children". Sometimes it takes a bite out of parent's/family's/adult's cash flow to get their attention. Or joint sentencing Parents/family/adults of their "children" that are involved. Parents/family/adults who see their "child/children" is going down the wrong path should be strongly supported when the adults seek outside the home help. But often aren't. Money gets people's attention if talking doesn't work.
Akracefan & akguy : better? I like my hammock, fishing or hunting example for some. ( ;-) Now we need to be involved our community.
Acetabular, I appreciate your education and insight on this matter. I wasn't really thinking of the "fame" they might think they're getting by having their picture posted publicly. I was more interested in posting their pictures so the public would have a little fore-warning of what/whom they're dealing with when they see one of these "gangsters". Seems like if everybody knows you're a gangster, and can easily recognize you, it would be more difficult for you to get away with your activities.
A understanding of child and human development mixed with the above Philsophies of morals and ethics are the foundation of basic human needs to fit in our society. If the foundation of basic human needs of Association to adjust & fit in our society is not addressed by our community & society, our children will seek Associations(gangs,parties,crimes,substances) out of accepted modes of Association of our community & society our children in an attempt to fill the foundation of basic human needs of Association to adjust & fit in our society.
As for the military being the primary cause of our community's crimal issues; they are no different as a "group" or "Minority" in our community "group" or "Minority" than "us" other "citizens". Racism of any form aimed at labeling a community "group" or "Minority" than "us" other "citizens" is still Prejudices & Racism. It is never too late to give up our Prejudices & Racism."
Henry David Thoreau was an American philosopher:
"whether or not this is because such prominent figures as Gandhi & Martin Luther King cited Thoreau as an inspiration, it has resulted in a disproportionate focus on what is only one part of an integral philosophy, a part that can hardly be understood in isolation from the others."
We need to Bring to our children our Association & Assimilation not gang's
Association & Assimilation for our children.
drex82
THANK YOU.:)
You have said it all and its good to see other military on here whether active duty or retired.:)
I for one am very proud that fort wainwright is taking the steps necessary to deal with the few gang members that crop up like a stink weed here and there.
As for DOG I've learned to ignore He-She because nothing useful or informative ever comes out of that poster's mouth anyway judging by all of the crude and nasty comments made. Everyone else ignores He-She so I've taken a clue from them and am doing the same thing.LOL
drex82,
I don't know 'dog' but I've known many who sound like just him; they are parasites who live on the good will of society and contribute little or nothing back to the society that allows them the freedom to "mouth off". I have helped 'Chapter' more than one of them out of the Army because they were 'Unfit to Serve'.
Maybe this applies to 'dog' and maybe it doesn't - I don't know - but I do know that he, she, or it is of the same mind set as those I knew who were removed from the military service because they 'didn't fit in'. I agree with Robert Heinlein, Author of "Starship Troopers" (and yes, the book was better than the movie) that Citizenship should be contingent on Military Service and an Honorable Discharge from the Military Branch or Branches that they served in...
If FPD didn't have to reassign all of its drug and gang enforcement detectives to street patrol because of a shortage of officers they might still have a handle on this problem. That's what you get though when you live in a community where people refuse to allow a sales tax so that local government can keep up with the ever increasing demand for services and the skyrocketing costs associated with providing them. Crimes gonna rise , you might have to wait awhile for an ambulance, roads are gonna suck.
Unless you're willing to put your money where your mouth is, just shut up and deal with it.
I personally blame the ITA.
Look, when we see gangsters what are we seeing, MONEY,and POWER.
It's a sense of belonging yes but the loyalty doesn't last long,after awhile they see the top dog making bank and they want that wanna roll like that to. It all stems around MONEY,and POWER. How do they make money, DRUGS, GUNS, SEX AND THEFT. so where do you hit them to take them down, where it hurts most, their money you have to have MONEY to have POWER. Its not rocket science. As a whole community we know things about our town, WE have the power to let the law know the things that go on in our town, but why don't we? FEAR, we don't want to float with the fishes either. Why do you think its so easy and has been for centuries for gangs to invade. No one is willing to step up and speak out.
Where does it all begin? when their adolecents, PARENTS you brought them in to this world take an interest in them, as mentioned in above comments, their lonly and feel a lacking of LOVE AND IMPORTANCE. TEACHERS, you also are a guidence for these kids don't turn your backs on them cause they may not be your ideal student, push them to succeed that will be your greatest triumph, troubled kids are lacking in their life so why not be that one important factor. GET INVOLVED PEOPLE ask them questions on why their angry, and feel the need to lash out take an intrest in someone other then your own. DON'T LEAVE IT ALL IN THE HANDS OF THE JUSTICE SYSTEM. it starts when they are young!!!! STEP UP PEOPLE!!!! THATS THE SOLUTION!!!! You want it different, well things start at home and move outward. STEP UP AND SPEAK OUT!!!
caligula24
You'll get more with honey than vinegar.
Give facts not attitudes.
Facts & support gets things changed.
Giving a negative attitudes to citizens against LEOs or FD only defeats you.
We need to get a petition going and signed to get State & Fed funds to get:
more educational items & programs in schools k-12,
a officer assigned to school's outreach programs, Puppets, G.R.E.A.T., L.E.A.T.S., L.E.A.P.S., Kids and Cops Trading Cards, Say No to Drugs, Bike safety at schools, Recreational events with LEOs & FD, museum for LEOs & FD, a officer on each campus of all middle schools & high schools, Youth Court, regular community interacting events to keep positive contact with LEOs with our community. Expand our VIPS, Weed and Seed programs.
We also need more hiring done to address our needs.
If we don't reach the children young to give them a solid foundation to stand on when, not if they are exposed to this; history is plainly written with denial by us.
Looking Back in Fairbanks — September 4
Published Thursday, September 4, 2008
10 YEARS AGO
Sept. 4, 1998 — The politicians, the police, the people they serve — all say the drug problem in Fairbanks is getting worse.
The federal government seems to agree.
The Drug Enforcement Administration announced Wednesday it will open a new office and station two agents in Fairbanks this fall. With them will come resources that are the agency’s hallmark — funding, worldwide networking and the expertise of a department focused exclusively on drug enforcement.
“We’ve always had some good cases going (in Fairbanks), but it seems lately, we’re getting some fairly sophisticated organizations,” said Zoran Yankovich, lead agent in the Anchorage DEA office.
Hartman murder
the years goes on.....
the list goes on.....
I wish we will see the value of supporting our community & our support services. Our roles in our community
is needed by our community.
Where does it all begin?
With the "very" young with no foundation of community.
Lack of Morals, ethics, a sense of not belonging to us or a part of us as a community. Lacking focus & direction & acceptance.
Dog,
It's people like you that make me grateful I had to lose my brother in Iraq 3 years ago today and I have my Alaskan born and raised husband serving at Wainwright to protect your freedom of speech and quality of life. I'm glad I had grow up watching both of my parents deploy at the same time to give you the right to dog our military. If you don't agree with the war great I get it but please don't blame our military. THEY ARE JUST DOING THE JOB THEY SIGNED UP FOR! They deserve our support and respect. It's not easy to leave your family for 16 months to go around the world to 140 degree heat and get shot at everyday with bombs exploding around you not knowing if you will even get to come home.
drex and all the rest of the toads:
Another lifer? You ever heard of working for a living?
Are you double-dipping now due to your military points affirmative action advantage in a sinecure on one of the bases?
And you fix the problem your type brought up here. The Crips didn't originate in Fairbanks, pal. They came out of that gate off the Rich. Clean up your own mess, don't try and blame the locals or the cops.
dog
alaskanangel23
"Look, when we see gangsters what are we seeing, MONEY,and POWER."
P_Davenport:
"Look, when we see gangsters what are we seeing, the lost and seeking."
"Look, when we see our community what are we seeing, No MONEY or POWER or SUPPORT to address gangsters."
"Look, when we see donations of money to buy puppets, books, educational items what are we seeing, Community, Support, Education to address gangsters."
"Look, when we see support from the state & Feds to hire more LEOs, staff, buy puppets, books, educational items, programs what are we seeing, Community, Support, Education to address gangsters."
More educational items & programs in schools k-12,
a officer assigned to school's outreach programs, Puppets, G.R.E.A.T., L.E.A.T.S., L.E.A.P.S., Kids and Cops Trading Cards, Say No to Drugs, Bike safety at schools, Recreational events with LEOs & FD, museum for LEOs & FD, a officer on each campus of all middle schools & high schools, Youth Court, regular community interacting events to keep positive contact with LEOs with our community. Expand our VIPS, Weed and Seed programs. Anti-gang attire on school campuses, in businesses.
We'll spend money on the children/youth/adults one way or another.
Pay for education of our children, support staff, LEOs.
Pay for repeating of legal fees, court, jail.
It's up to us.
Which do you choose?
Pro-active and prevention works.
Non-action and allowing it to spread is like watching butter melt and spread on a tin plate on a hot day.
Paying for repeat of legal fees, court, jail is not working.........
We need to close the gangs barn door..........
We need to reach our children before gangs, crime, or substances do...
Change our approach....Reach the pre-school on up to high school students, parents before the fact, during the fact, after the fact. Show & teach community.
Paying for repeats of legal fees, court, jail is not working.........
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These Myspace or MTV gang wannabes are trying to grow an image they only seen on TV. Most of them don't even know the history of Blue and Red. Some of them are crips in the morning and bloods at night. Come on winter is here to test their cold weather rags....Fairbanks! let's mount up. We own the Town not these dropouts.
I heard that everyone could pack heat in Alaska. So what is the problem...............?
Regardless, when we catch them we need to set an example to the rest of the little hoodlums. Cut off their trigger fingers.
And to the ones that are sitting in prison right now for their role in the shootings on college road, (if their still in prison)cut theirs off too and we need to charge them with 10,000 counts of attempted murder and attempt on me and my son as well cause i was in the area.
And what ever happened to the little baby which was in the car with those people?
Hit them hard the first time! Maybe that will encourage them to play nice.
Hey have a great Saturday fellow Alaskans!!
Regardless, when we catch them we need to set an example to the rest of the little hoodlums. Cut off their trigger fingers.
And to the ones that are sitting in prison right now for their role in the shootings on college road, (if their still in prison)cut theirs off too and we need to charge them with 10,000 counts of attempted murder and attempt on me and my son as well cause we were in the area.
And what ever happened to the little baby which was in the car with those people?
Hit them hard the first time! Maybe that will encourage them to play nice.
Hey have a great Saturday fellow Alaskans, and watch out for shooting bullets, cause them little criminals think that they will get away with it.And you know what? They probably will.
Dan Hoffman
Chief of the Fairbanks Police Department
Do you have a "wish list" of items to assist us in educating our Pre-School - 12 schools that would enrich our community's direction of preventive, proactive resources? If so, could you please post it, so we can see if you have a need of donations towards our community's direction of preventive, proactive resources. With PFDs & resource rebates to most homes, there is many wanting to help you and our community end the the misdirection of our children. A "wish list" of educational items has the ability to be used by by LEOs to reach Pre-School-12 grades.
Or :
school's outreach programs
Puppets
G.R.E.A.T.
L.E.A.T.S.
L.E.A.P.S.
Kids and Cops Trading Cards
Say No to Drugs
Bike safety at schools
Recreational events with LEOs & FD
museum for LEOs & FD
Youth Court
regular community interacting events with LEOs with our community. Weed and Seed programs
Or ideas on your wish list for our children/youth.
Can we help you in this way? With PFDs & resource rebates coming, the recent crimes are on our community's mind......(just a idea)
Don't just think that more parental involvement will stop kids from joining gangs. In the lower 48, gangs are multi-generational, with some gangs going back 3-4 generations, so parents are already involved with their kids, just on the wrong side of the law.
Keep in mind that Crypts & Bloods are not the only gangs out there, OMC's like the Hells Angels are well established in the interior and yes, even the military has gang members in their ranks.
To combat gang violence, which goes along hand-in-hand with illegal drug use, will take a sustained effort by the entire community, not just being left to law enforcement & the schools. EVERYBODY must do their part- including pressing charges and testafying in court to convict the gang members & wannabees.
Gangs go after money and power. So does this mean the police are in a gang? They can sell drugs, Pull over people and charge them for things that totally violates the constitution. Do you see them fighting crime??? There's no money in it!!! I had a witness that watched a man walk in my house and steal something. Did he spend time. I was told he was working with them in some way? Busts? What?It's a gang. The federal government pays the state money for the insurance industry to make you wear a seat belt. JUST WHAT IF THE FEDS GAVE IT TO THEM TO STOP THEFT> ETC!!! get it!!!
Get real people. Hoffman and his boys in blue have good intentions but they can't be everywhere and do everything for us. It's up to us. You'd be amazed what a few well placed RPG's can accomplish in turning around a neighborhood. Think about it.
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