Stalinist bill
by Birch Pavelsky / Fairbanks
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Letter to the editor

March 18, 2010

To the editor:

I urge your readers to look at Senate Bill 3081, “Enemy Belligerent, Interrogation, Detention and Prosecution Act of 2010,” introduced March 4 by Sen. McCain.

The act calls for the president to create “interagency teams,” which would designate people — citizens and non-citizens — as suspected enemy units of war and direct that they may be held in military custody without Miranda rights, and be interrogated for as long as deemed necessary. The place and conditions of their confinement would likely be secret.

The bill states, “A high-value detainee interrogation group may utilize military and intelligence personnel, and federal, state and local law enforcement personnel, in conducting interrogations. ...”

No warrants, evidence or civil law courts would be involved. Suspicion alone suffices, suspicion that one is an enemy.

I suggest that this is a bill Stalin would have loved.

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TristaSaunders
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March 22, 2010
Oops! Wrong letter! I'm just praising Lance Mackey :)
TristaSaunders
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March 22, 2010
Lance Mackey is a mushing wizard. Enough said. The man is AMAZING with dogs!
Buick-Mackane
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March 22, 2010
Ducks are NOT slow, fussy eaters!

Oh, Stalinist bill, not stalling-est bill...
ak_bear
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March 20, 2010
Me too. Redpoll knocked it out of the park.
Pearl=W
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March 20, 2010
Great comment, redpoll! Solidly based, well informed, couldn't have said it better, so I'll just add my agreement.
redpoll
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March 20, 2010
I did look at the actual bill itself. Unlike the health care monstrosity, this bill is only a page or two long.

The bill appears to codify into law some of the concerns expressed following the 9/11 attacks. It gives the government a specific role when dealing with enemy "belligerents," as they are called in the bill. The bill specifies that a "belligerent" shall not be provided a Miranda statement, for instance. The bill tells the attorney general and secretary of defense to both determine who is or is not a belligerent within 48 hours.

Then there's the weasel words. This is where the letter is correct in labeling the bill "Stalinist." Stalin was famous for creating "legislation" in which a clause or a paragraph could be used to nullify the rest of the law. An great example is the Soviet Constitution, which provides free speech protection, but also includes a clause allowing the state to prosecute "anti-Soviet agitation." LOL

This bill allows the government to determine "potential threats," then allows the government to detain those people. The government can also detain those with "potential intelligence." The bill specifies Al Qaeda affiliation as probable cause for detention.

Then there's the Stalinist part. The government can designate a person as a terrorist based on "such other matters as the President considers appropriate."

The president and his supporters have already labeled certain conservatives as terrorists. Who else might be "appropriate" for consideration? The bill states that such as a person has "engaged in hostilities" against the United States. What if that engagement includes angry posts in the News-Miner? Or standing on the corner of University and Geist holding up signs? (By the way, I miss those guys. When I was in Fairbanks this week, I didn't see hide nor hair of them.)

The letter writer is also pretty damn hostile himself.

And, sadly, this is how free people become slaves and serfs - one small step at a time. Of course this bill won't be used in the same manner as a Castro or a Chavez or a Mao would use it. At least not now. It's hard to know whether to laugh or cry.
Invictus
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March 20, 2010
"Ummmmm.... It's not a 'conservative' dialect, bump. It's clearly a Republican dialect."

Ummmm.... how can that be when Republicans are the wealthiest, most influential king-makers in the country who control all big business, Wall Street, banks, and government; whereas, Democrats are the simplest and leastest underdogs?

Plumbing even greater depths of bigoted confusion and still trying to convince others that you're a "conservative".

Pathetic.
Oh_please
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March 20, 2010
They said that if I voted for McCain that we would have tyranny -- and they were right.

Invictus
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March 20, 2010
They said that if I voted for McCain that we would have tyranny -- and they were right.
Oh_please
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March 20, 2010
Opie's talking in her conservative dialect this morning.

Ummmmm.... It's not a 'conservative' dialect, bump. It's clearly a Republican dialect.

bump
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March 20, 2010
It never gets old.

Or funny.
Oh_please
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March 20, 2010
Also, more importantly, OBAMER KARE GONNA TAKE ARE RITES AWAY!!
bump
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March 20, 2010
Oh boy! Opie's talking in her conservative dialect this morning. How fun. She's just so darn clever.
Oh_please
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March 20, 2010
More importantly, DID Y'ALL HERE LUK IS GONNA TAKE OUR WOOD STOVES AWAY???
polarmark
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March 20, 2010
it's just crazy. there are a fairly large amount of people trying to increase the rights of those trying to kill us and reduce the rights of those trying to protect us from them. they are just insane. that's the only way i can explain it. unless they too hate so bad they really want our enemies to win this war.
1AhHa
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March 20, 2010


Poor Taliban, poor, poor abused babies, running around killing people all over the world over cartoons.

Question: Is the author is a closet jihadist?

Recommended reading.

http://www.gunpowder-plot.org/

Google - gunpowder plot - will give several versions of the story -- compare and contrast the "politically correctness of various versions" as history is re-written to mold the reader's perception of reality.

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Also notice the Catholic Church was involved back then just as they are involved in modern America.

Whether it is running what amounted to a world wide pedophile ring, abortion or attempting to kill all the English government with 30 barrels of black powder.

One of the reasons we have separation of church and state in American dates to 1610.

To bad Lorri Ingram's conspicuous cleavage and cross pointing to it -- flunked history.

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lcebx

Isanova
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March 20, 2010
Wait I thought we already had that, it was called the Patriot Act and presidential decree.

I'm a little suspicious. John McCain isn't someone who would introduce legislation like that, the man was a victim of torture himself
twain
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March 20, 2010
These tactics have been in existence around the world for years and thourgly disgust all freedom loving prople. We dont need as a policy the tactics of the KGB,MOSSAD,GESTAPO,and yes some in our CIA Lets dont go down that road.
TheAlaskaCurmudgeon
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March 20, 2010
As long as it's a Republican bill and not one proposed by Obama, I really don't see what the problem is.
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