Former U.S. Sen. Ted Stevens says the AGIA pipeline plan has flopped and the state should put up billions to pay half the cost of an in-state natural gas pipeline project to Kenai.
It should also switch its support to the building of a trans-Alaska pipeline to Valdez that would export LNG to the Pacific Rim nations, Stevens told Anchorage businessmen at a Commonwealth North meeting Friday.
"Let's move ahead. We don't need any more open seasons, we don't need any more periods for analysis. We need an emphasis on getting the job done," he said.
This harkens back 35 years to when Stevens was among those in Alaska championing the idea of building a gas pipeline along the oil pipeline route to the coast. The Alaska Highway option eventually won out in the political arena, but failed in the economic arena.
For decades Stevens has said that the route through Canada was the best option to get Alaska gas to market, but no more. The economics have shifted because of the shale gas boom in the Lower 48 and the heavy demand in Asia for liquefied natural gas shipped by tanker, he said.
He presented a series of charts showing forecasts for a continual growth in domestic U.S. gas production and a growing need in Asia.
Japan and South Korea import nearly half of the liquefied natural gas in the world, while China and India are the fastest growing markets, he said.
Stevens' position is important because even though he is out of office, he remains one of the most influential political figures in Alaska.
“In the Senate, I supported moving forward with taking our natural gas to the largest and highest priced market at that time – which was our Midwestern states. I really tried to do everything I could to accelerate the construction of the pipeline through Canada to those states.”
“I have now changed that position and now support the bullet line, but I think it should go to Kenai and I support the construction of the line to Valdez. I asked for the privilege of speaking to you to try to explain to Alaskans why I have so drastically changed my position. I think that these lines are needed not only for the needs of Alaska but I think we need to concentrate on processing as much of our gas as possible into LNG.”
Stevens said the state should "put up half of this money now" to build a bullet line to Kenai from the North Slope. The next questions are: How much? And where is the economic analysis showing how much money is at risk?
He said the bullet line would be the largest project underway in the country and it "will represent Alaska's contribution to job creation and recovery in our nation." He said the state should encourage the building of the bullet line as soon as possible.
"I believe emergency power should be given to a special coordinator to devise ways to get the main pipeline from the North Slope to Valdez built in record time," he said.
This declaration that AGIA is dead puts Stevens at odds with the gas line approach taken by Gov. Sean Parnell, who continues to defend the AGIA approach as the state's best bet. This stance by Stevens may give Ralph Samuels and Bill Walker, Parnell's two major opponents in the GOP primary race for governor, a way to capitalize on their differences with Parnell.
The challengers wasted no time Friday in sending out press releases praising Stevens and echoing their views that the AGIA plan is a deadend.
One difference between the two statements was that while Samuels said a bullet line to Southcentral is "our energy highway to the future," Walker said the state needs a major pipeline to Valdez, with a spur to Southcentral.
Stevens wants the state to set aside the AGIA plan championed by former Gov. Sarah Palin and Parnell and the Legislature, which approved the plan 59-1 in 2008, and build it immediately. Samuels was on the losing end of that vote and he's happy to defend that position today. There are several other incumbent legislators who would love to go back in time and join him in the "no" column.
Stevens told Commonwealth North that getting U.S. approval to export large amounts of natural gas should not be a problem. This contradicts a statement that he made in late 2007.
At that time, when a Chinese company flirted with the concept of getting in on the gas pipeline sweepstakes, Stevens said there was no chance. With the shortage of natural gas in the U.S., "that gas is not going to be allowed to be exported," Stevens said.
He said Friday that times have changed and the gas shortage no longer exists in the Lower 48, which is why AGIA is not going to work and exports are the most promising option.
Legislators who want the state to start building a bullet line to Southcentral right now and shift the responsibility from a reluctant governor to the Alaska Railroad will see Stevens' remarks as justification to push ahead.
FLNG is: a Floating-LNG plant on ship or barge.
The FLNG can be paced outside of Valdez Harbor [Fidalgo?]
Underwater HDPE-pipes can pass the gas to the FLNG.
Anderson Bay has been suggested as the LNG site..
yeah, I have a little bit of heartburn about this location too.
Floating blast-walls made from AAC-concrete are quite effective for mitigating horizontal damage by deflecting the gas upwards.
There are many different low-cost design tricks that can be implemented to solve many different thorny problems.
I would be more worried about an earthquake doing serious damage to the oil terminal.
..if it was up to me I would convert all of Alaska's heavy-hydrocarbons to hydrogen enriched alkane-gas.
Fairbanks Future- you sure have a lip lock with Ramras' heine. Do you work for him? Ramras has been part of the problem. He has never supported the voter mandated line to Valdez. He has only talked about an uneconomic, small diameter, bullet line. You are not entitled to make up your own facts. Sorry.
Ted Stevens is talking about a line for export. He is talking about a large diameter line that will provide low cost gas for Alaskans due to a large economy of scale.
Jaybird has never gotten this one right. He has always been out of step with the voters on this issue- and that is why he will be removed from political office this year.
Mushroom- the United States has plenty of energy. That is why we are talking about an export project. Exporting to other nations has real benefits. We trade with hundreds of nations. You probably have items in your home that came from overseas. The U.S. has massive trade defects that this export project wail help correct. If we do not correct the trade deficit the US will continue to lose jobs and we will see a decline in our economic well being. Your point about using the energy with seemingly reckless regard is a valid concern. Alaska would be smart to make as much money as we can off of our hydrocarbon resources before new technologies replace hydrocarbon burning technology. Solar, geothermal, fuel cells, tidal energy, wind, even biofuels... all are improving technologies. There will be a time that these renewable technologies will be significantly more cost effective than burning oil/gas. When that happens the gas in the ground will be worth a lot less...
Boodrow- You are on point. Did you know Alaska has over ten billion in our checking account that could be used for this project? We'd only need 4-5 billion for our equity portion. The rest could be financed- and yes, the Chinese might be interested.
It makes no sense to build the bullet line and then the Valdez line after. Build them together, and tap the Valdez line at Glenallen to south central.
Use the EZ-gas to finance the Tuff-gas project.
propane = EZ-gas
methane = Tuff-gas [fluffygas]
http://s281.photobucket.com/albums/kk209/DistantThunderbolt/?action=view¤t=6inchgaslineP2FBX.jpg
Now is the best time to build the first little gasline over Atigun Pass..
..this will supply key logistic fuel to power the construction camps and fuel construction busses&trucks on the haulroad. Using propane instead of diesel will save a billion$$ in construction costs over the next few years until the All-Alaska is built.
A little propane line is needed now to begin the pre-build of the construction camps all along the ROW. The young-workforce needs to get out into the field and begin training. The Fairbanks Local 942 should be focused on getting this little propane in polypipe NOW!! -- It will immediately provide the impetus and cashflow for 2000 Laborers this season to begin camp-construction.
In-state propane sales can finance this project by using the profits from LPG-truck deliveries to pay for phase-1 camp-site preparations. This can mobilize a good chunk of our local workforce immediately. It took several years for unions to ramp up and plan for TAPS.. why is everybody so disorganized today??
There is very little if any market in the lower 48 for the next 20 years for gas. The lower 48 is awash in gas and will be for decades. The far east is the market.
No mention here that Parnell says the state has already begun preliminary work on an instate line. Nor is there mention of yesterday's quotes from both Denali and TransCanada that an instate line is still an option.
Thanks, Ted, for stepping up the political viability of a project Ramras and others have long known was the only way Fairbanks gets energy we can afford!
Despite AGIA, if the open season fails, the instate line shoots to the forefront.
study this drawing carefully..
http://s281.photobucket.com/albums/kk209/DistantThunderbolt/?action=view¤t=CryogenicGasline1.jpg
..this will ship 5bcfd of methane to Valdez/Kenai
This cryogenic gasline is NOT a megaproject costing billions. I'm a stickler for cost containment, this is why I designed this cryogenic pipeline. I would be thrilled if we can build this for less than two-billion, and with everyone's help I think we can.
This cryogenic gasline does not need continuous trenching and a fleet of sidebooms to lay it in a big muddy ditch. This cryopipe will be tunneled in underground, and construction sites will be concentrated in little clearings in the trees every 5-10miles apart.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dA1wzNnfHY4
..imagine most of Alaska having plenty of LNG to use as a handy fuel.
...pull my finger (;-P)
We are mid stride in getting a pipeline filled through the open season bidding process. Companies will either commit to fill the pipe or it won't be built by Trans-Canada. If it is not built, Alaska has the option to build it's own in-state line. We need to be pressuring the producers to fulfill their obligation to produce the resources or give up their leases so that Alaska can continue to move forward one way or the other. Abandoning AGIA this early in the process is not wise.
We need to be patient and let the AGIA process work or fail on it's own. If we want a bullet line, there is nothing stopping it as a stand alone project and it has broad support state wide as long as it is used within the state to reduce our energy costs rather than inflate the state coffers and budget.
Good goin there, you right on the picture.
now this where it gets interesting..
if you see a few of us drop out of posting in these comments sections it's because we jumped into our greasy old Carhartts and got busy making this movie happen.. just like the good old days.
Thanks for providing the historical perspective, Dermot. While Stevens has mostly got this right, Gov. Hickel and the next governor- Bill Walker- have it 100% right- as does Scott Heyworth.
Why?
Easy. The line to Valdez gives us access to the West Coast AND world markets as well as Hawaii. Hawaii wants our gas for their power plants.
The line to Valdez is already permitted. The EIS was completed 21 years ago.
The LNG project out of Valdez has an export license.
The All Alaska Gasline provides Alaskans with the most affordable gas.
And this project is, after all, what Alaskans mandated in the 2002 election. Its the law.
The current governor along with the corrupt cabal of lackeys for Big Oil have fought the voters wishes tooth and nail. They promote a project that would not even go on line for ten years- best case- if at all. And they talk of silly bullet lines that do not provide new revenue or affordable energy.
What's worse is the legislature has, after all their talk and posturing, not even figured out gas taxes for Alaska. And they are now- at the midnight hour- trying to figure out how fix the major mistake they made by linking oil and gas taxes into AGIA.
So who are the good guys, today?
Walker, Hickel, Heyworth, and Stevens. Stevens is late to the party, but he gets credit for acknowledging the obvious.
Steadman gets credit for using brains and statesmanship for trying to fix the horrible mistake made with gas taxes.
The losers:
Parnell, Persilly, and the hoard of legislators who have kept their heads buried in the sand for all these years while Alaskans in the Interior and bush communities have been killed with overpriced energy and dirty air. As bad as that is-what is even worse- is the suicide course they've placed us on by not bringing the All Alaska Gasline into fruition so Alaska has new revenues that help us avoid economic collapse.
I assume "important" should be "import."
Stevens is quoted as saying he "supported moving forward with taking our natural gas to the largest and highest priced market at that time – which was our Midwestern states. I really tried to do everything I could to accelerate the construction of the pipeline through Canada to those states.”
While his comment implies that he supported John McMillian's Northwest Gas Pipeline project along the Alaska (Alcan) Highway because rational market forces dictated that option, the truth is he and his colleagues in the Senate politically committed themselves to a trans Canada gas pipeline to the U.S. Midwest with the Senate's passage of the Trans Alaska (Oil)Pipeline Authorization Act of 1974 when Vice President Spyro Agnew, acting as the Senate's president pro tem, cast the tie-breaking vote in its favor. In order to get their colleagues from the midwestern states to vote for the TAPS Act, Stevens and other supporters of the all-Alaska oil line promised them that the next hydrocarbon pipeline from the North Slope, presumably a gas pipeline, would be aimed at their midwestern consituency. By now supporting the "bullet" line, Stevens breaks that long-held promise to the midwestern state senators, which he may have forgotten, or simply believes is no longer valid since he's no longer in the Senate.
Joe LaRocca
go away SCUMBAG.
Building the All Alaskan Gasline will bring all Alaskans much closer together for a unified goal to finally distribute enough clean fuels everywhere in the 13million square miles of Alaskan Territory..
[err, well, that's how many sq.mi. if you draw a big circle around Alaska]
The Best Market for Alaskan Gas is: ALASKA!!
I'd rather have gas than funnymoney.. pull my finger!!