Planned Parenthood sues over Alaska notification law
by The Associated Press
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ANCHORAGE, Alaska - Planned Parenthood of the Great Northwest is trying to block a new state law requiring that parents of teenage girls seeking abortions be notified.

Several doctors joined the organization in suing the state Tuesday.

Voters approved the measure in August and the law goes into effect Dec. 14. It requires Alaska doctors notify a parent before performing an abortion on girls younger than 18.

There is a notification exception for victims of abuse by a parent or guardian. A girl could get an abortion without parental notice with a notarized statement about the abuse signed by an adult relative or authorized official.

Planned Parenthood says the law violates privacy rights guaranteed in the state Constitution.

The Anchorage Daily News reports state officials did not immediately respond to requests for comment.

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EOD_Dave
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November 25, 2010
Rather than relinquish parental rights to the state, parents have not only the right, but the responsibility to monitor, mentor, and if needs be, control, "reproductive rights" of the children of whom they are they are the legal guardians.

As far as the issue of abortion, the "left" has spun the argument from where it should be. The real question is not whether a woman has the right to control her own body, or "reproductive rights", but WHEN she makes the choice and whether she is responsible for the consequences of that choice. If I don't want to live with the consequence of a choice, I decide that I don't want to get burned before I stick my hand in the fire. Not after I feel the heat. No birth control device is 100% effective.

Please do not attempt to use the real but rare instances of "rape, incest, & life of the mother" argument to rationalize the 90% uses of abortion as a birth control device. That is a different issue.
AlaskaBorn
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November 24, 2010
I think that the fervor of those opposed to abortion due to religious beliefs have spawned a mutant sort of opposition.

These opponents have turned a belief in abortions into something akin to its own religion. They have lost touch with reality.

I am an observer on the sideline until the abortionists try to reach out to my children.

Remember, this is a grotesque effort on a single issue.

Invictus
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November 24, 2010
Alaskaborn -- according to the minority, parents should be the last to know.
AlaskaBorn
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November 24, 2010
My 10 year old doesn't want to eat healthy food. Due to his self-dietary rights, a liberty issue, I shouldn't insist that he eat his vegitables?

Having a staff member from planned parenthood counsel a child about abortion is like having Jim Jones counsel someone about Kool-aid.

“If one hair is harmed on the head of one girl, then this law is despicable!” doesn’t acknowledge the reality of our world. No law that affects a diverse population will fail to have unintended consequences. No law, no matter intent or language will be free of harm to some part of our population.

Over 300,000 serious infections per year as a result of abortions. Shouldn’t parents be aware when a medical procedures with potentially serious side effects?

maverickster
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November 24, 2010
EOD_Dave: "So, to have my child take an Advil after a dentist appointment, at school, I have to be notified & sign a release. But I don't need to be notified or sign for an abortion?"

Evidently. Resolving this logical inconsistency can utilize the pro-liberty solution of removing a teens' self-medication rights or the pro-authoritarian solution of adding further restrictions to a teens' reproductive rights.

Liberty and rights are scalar, not vectorial.

AlaskaBorn: I've no idea what Planned Parenthood advocates. I'm analyzing the issue strictly from the principles of individual liberty.

Isanova: Thanks for the empirical observations - those are always nice to have to confirm principles.
Invictus
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November 24, 2010
If Planned Parenthood is not willing to abide by our laws, then they have no place in Alaska. We demand the same of any corporation conducting business in our state.
EOD_Dave
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November 24, 2010
So, to have my child take an Advil after a dentist appointment, at school, I have to be notified & sign a release. But I don't need to be notified or sign for an abortion?
Isanova
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November 24, 2010
This reminds me of the lyrics to the song "Get Better" by Scroobius Pip... I really encourage any parents and/or kids to look up the music video on youtube, it's very inspirational. Part of it goes like this:

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You're young, you've no rights, you long for new heights,

But some of those nights leave more than love bites,

Tops cropped, skirts stop at the top of their thighs,

And the boys got that hungry look in their eyes,

They wanna be grown up and have respect you see,

But they're acting uneducated sexually,

I ain't saying' be celibate,

Go out and have your fun,

But there's plenty you can do without impregnation,

And there ain't nothing wrong at all with having children,

Just build yourself a little before you try to build them,
Isanova
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November 24, 2010
I want to point out that Planned Parenthood does a lot more than abortions. They offer gynecological services for poor women, they help poor women through pregnancy that want to carry their child to term, as well as other non-abortion related services.

And god help our teens who go out into the streets to have illegal abortions, who end up maimed by them... or emotionally scared from the situation or the abortion itself. There are few to slim mental health resources in this town, and almost no counseling that is available to homeless teenagers.

The girls are the ones who will suffer because of this bill, far in excess of any lives it might save.
Isanova
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November 23, 2010
Correct me if I am wrong, but PP requires you to undergo a counseling session with a staff member before undergoing an abortion anyways... so they do have the guidance of an adult there.

It is hard for me to speak on the matter, the way I was born I will never bear a child of my own, but I will say this.

If even one child has to run away from home, or, god forbid, considers suicide rather than having to face their parents with the shame of being pregnant, then this bill is monstrous. Knowing more than a few people who have been on the streets as teenagers, and kids who have been in abusive and destructive homes, I can see it easily happening. I would go so far as to say it is very likely to happen now.

Not every bad parent is going to break their daughter's jaw for getting pregnant, but some will. More common will be the child who does not do well with their family, who will turn to the streets living with friends rather than face their parents knowing their shame.

I don't know how many would turn to backstreet abortions (coat hanger horror stories, or paying someone to punch you in the stomach until you have a miscarriage) but it would be seen as easier than carrying a baby whilst living on the streets. A lot of homeless teenagers end up "dating" people and doing sexual favors just to have a couch or floor to sleep on, and it's not as easy to attract a man when you're pregnant.

Abortion is not ideal by any means, but it is a LOT better than the alternatives for many of these girls. When the pro-life groups stop believing in the fantasy that every parent loves their child and every household is a healthy, safe environment.... when they stop supporting the death penalty and stop railing against government welfare programs that help women to raise kids in these situations... and when they start caring about the kids dumped in the system/forgotten about... THEN I might see about getting behind ending most abortions (medically necessary ones I think should be legal regardless). Until then, I see them as a bunch of hypocrites wanting to feel morally superior.
AlaskaBorn
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November 23, 2010
Yes, yes, you’ve hit all the talking points from Planned Parenthood. Bravo!

Why the big push on a single issue. Why this one inroad into the rights and responsibilities of parents. There are children that need dental care. Where is the ADA with their lawsuit, backed up by the ACLU?

It’s simple; it’s a push for abortion. Plain. Simple.

maverickster
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November 23, 2010
AkaskanBorn: Legal schmegal. A pregnant teen happens from more than just an ill advised laison. It also happens because the parents couldn't or more likely wouldn't fulfill their obligation to instruct their child in avoiding self-destructive behavior. A law to forcibly protect parental rights when those parents have neglected or abused those rights is preposterous.

No law can remedy a dysfunctional family but this law can bolster the misues of power that often accompanies dysfunctional families.

A healthy family where a teen pregnancy is truly an accident won't need state coercion to foster communication while an unhealthy family will only have their condition further enabled by this legislation.

Also I'm skeptical this is the will of "The Alaskan People". More like the will of imported carpetbagging lower 48ers who are disproportionately represented by lunatic cult members. I say lunatic because they reject logic and embrace a witch doctor worldview.

Of course bring enough of them and you will have a new Alaska courtesy of the snake oil, clandestine pervert preachers spreading brain damage among the population. So in the long run you might be right. Oh yippee.
amsihron
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November 23, 2010
Just defund Planed Parenthood & this murder organization would go away.
AlaskaBorn
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November 23, 2010
maverickster

What would Occam's Razor suggest about a single issue (this is critical- “single issue”) that breaks the legal bonds that govern parent’s sole responsibility for caring for their children?

Don’t you find it odd that out of state organizations are willing to spend tremendous amounts of money to overturn the explicit will of the Alaskan people- on a single issue?

maverickster
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November 23, 2010
This measure safeguards the rights of parents who wouldn't or couldn't sufficiently safeguard their daughter from pregnancy.

For the first group, the law is irrelevant, for the second, it's irrelevant or redundant.

While the electorate might be dumb enough to vote for legislation that is irrelevant and redundant, Occam's Razor suggests a religious insurgency propelled this measure as a part of an ongoing program to incrementally impose a christian form of sharia.

At least they have the decency to exclude victims of parental abuse.

AkKat
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November 23, 2010
I believe this law is a good thing as along as it has the exception in it. I don't like letting the government have more say so over my children than I do. Government controls most of our lives enough as it is. Sometimes kids are afraid of disappointing their parents and want to avoid the emotional conversation that would take place with the admission of sexual activity and pregnancy. Most kids don't realize that the emotional distress would be worse after having the abortion and then not feeling able to talk about with their parents.
dawnky
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November 23, 2010
Nobody should have the right to do a medical procedure on my daughter without my knowledgeand permission, period. She is my responsibilty til she's 18 and that means every aspect of her life.
Afterburner
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November 23, 2010
AlaskaBorn is right on this except that there are many who hold tight to the views of the rights of the unborn also hold just as tightly to usurping their role as parents in the management of their children’s health care.

What if your daughter had a bleeding disorder, was thirteen and was to scared to tell anyone? Besides, if the government can do this they can and will do anything. Who knows, they might even start feeling your breasts and genitals at the airport screening for bombs! No sorry, that's crazy, that will never happen, I'm speaking paranoid crazy talk again, forgive me.

AlaskaBorn
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November 23, 2010
This is a single issue matter to many. To the pro-abortion advocates it is seen strictly through activist eyes. Many opposed are involved in a knee-jerk religious response.

I am neither. I am a parent who sees through the ludicrous “reasons” of those who view abortions with the zeal of a fundamentalist.

Hear me well; those who advocate abortions without parental notification have less concern with pregnant children than spreading the gospel of abortions on demand.

I reject Planned Parenthood and the ACLU’s usurping my role as parent in the management of my children’s health care.

longhornak
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November 23, 2010
chenarose, that is why there is the exception clause in the measure. If planned parenthood is honestly wanting to help, then help them with the exceptions. (And maybe help them out afterwards with their situation? Just a thought.)

LadyNYC, though I don't like Planned Parenthood much (a bias of mine), your comment is well thought out. Actually, most of your comments are well thought out. Thank you.
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